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  Know it’s not true but stay anyway

  by Elena in

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  how many of the millions of jws know it’s not true but stay anyway?.

  my guess is most jws know it’s not true on a subconscious level to an extent but they don’t want to think about it too much and would never ever voice it out loud.. but this is probably true with all religions around the world?.

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  BluesBrother

  They don’t dare to think to hard ….. that is what got us on here , and they know that.

  They just pray for more faith, leave “it all up to Jehovah “ and go with the flow….

  That is what some tell me anyway
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  Did God know adam and eve would sin?

  by gavindlt in

  1. watchtower
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  to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..

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  BluesBrother

  Yes , “today it hardly seems fair”… We can often say that about parts of the Bible . I don’t claim to know the answers but I am willing to accept that since I was not there and we have only sparse information, I am in no position to judge.
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  UK Blood Scandal inquiry findings

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
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  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-69025640.

  how do you feel about this latest inquiry?

  although we expect jehovah's witnesses to use this opportunity to say "we were right all this time", it's nonetheless a historic blow to the nhs.

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  BluesBrother

  This is really a two edged sword for JWs .

  1) On the one hand it does support what we were told by WT , at the time that diseases such as AIDS and Hepatitis C can and were contracted from blood products.

  2) On the other hand it shows that the blood fractions ,which they nowadays allow and seem to almost encourage, are just as liable to carry a disease, if one should be in it. . The haemophiliacs taking factor 8 were just as badly affected as anyone having a transfusion.

  That fact seems lost on the JWs I know, who are too busy saying “ We told you so !”

  They don’t want to know either…..
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  Shocking health care article by JW.Org

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/w20081115/maintain-a-scriptural-view-of-health-care/#p14.

  seems to me like this is another damage control article, are vaccine injured jws causing a stir?

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  BluesBrother

  Please note that this article was published in 2008 , long before we had heard of Covid or there being any concerns over vaccines. I do not see anything different here to what they have said before.
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  Branch dedication London

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve been invited to the dedication at chelmsford.. it’s crazy here, several thousand ex bethelites here for lots of events.

  all hotels booked.

  big marquee.

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  BluesBrother

  Have to say that the zoomed program yesterday was a total disaster in this house. The older dubs hated the opening video with grinning idiots doing building work .. The 2 hours that followed was just “ branch experiences “ and reports from other places … The result being that by the time Ken Cooke started his talk they were reduced to slumber or complete annoyance with it all .
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  Branch dedication London

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve been invited to the dedication at chelmsford.. it’s crazy here, several thousand ex bethelites here for lots of events.

  all hotels booked.

  big marquee.

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  BluesBrother

  All congregations in the British branch area are to cancel the scheduled meeting this weekend and zoom into the Branch dedication event . It promises to be a 3 hour bladder marathon.

  I am not looking forward to it . I am saddened by the razzmatazz that ExBethelite describes, sounds tacky and cheap . Any early updates would be appreciated, and a photo of that “courtroom”?
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  Materialistic and Soon

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  2. bible

  i was reading a bart ehrman book, .

  armageddon: what the bible really says about the end.

  no, i won't bore you with complicated various theories i was reading.

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  BluesBrother

  Yes, it was just as soon when I was a lad in the ‘50s … I knew old ones then who had expected it decades earlier and Russell and his mates expected it in 1914 … we are still waiting.

  I do agree with OTWO that the doctrine of the JW is a very material paradise . The ore recent videos they have made show this very clearly .
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  Vomit Eaters and Filthy Whores

  by Sea Breeze in

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  the watchtower characterizes christians not affiliated with the watchtower corporation as vomit eaters and filthy whores: .

  “how well they pictured the spiritual drunkards of christendom at the present time!

  besides actual wine and intoxicating liquors, there are other things to intoxicate the priests and preachers in christendom so as to induce drowsiness in them, to make them reel, to confuse things before their religious vision, to induce them to belch out the vomit of spiritually filthy things” - w59 3/1 pp.

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  BluesBrother

  Yes they did bring persecution on themselves by such things. However , that Watchtower was 1959 . That is 65 years ago . They have changed the tone of their message since then .
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  1963 Resolution Condemning the United Nations

  by Sea Breeze in

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  quote from that world wide resolution: .

  that, in order to prevent the destruction of the nations by their own means in war, the nations further refused the surrender of their sovereignty to god’s messianic kingdom by setting up a society of nations, which, since 1945, has taken the form and the name of the united nations, with international headquarters at new york city.

  this international organization stands for world sovereignty by political men.

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  BluesBrother

  I think I remember this. As a teenager I was present at Twickenham when we did a resolution. The wording was so long and complicated that I lost the plot completely. At the end the speaker said “ All those in agreement shout ‘ Aye’” . So I shouted but had no idea what I was resolving to do…..
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  Armageddon Car

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  how many of you bought a nice sedan, suv, or even a minivan back in the days that you described as your "armageddon car" that you would care for and it would last until the end arrived?.

  i was driving a 1974 plymouth volare wagon in 1992 when i managed to get an 8-year old buick century.

  it was low mileage and had a very luxurious interior.

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  BluesBrother

  Great article that….one to show any 1975 deniers.

  I never had an Armageddon car but I had Armageddon dental treatment. It was spring 1975 and I came home from the dentist and told my wife.. “ Well, that is the last time I shall ever have to go to the dentist! “

  She gave me a withering look, as females can, and said that I should not be so sure about that. Of course she was right , as usual.