would you stop buying nike products because you didn’t like their politics?
conversely, would you give business to a company because you liked their political stand on a matter?
would you stop watching an entertainer because you disagree with their political perspectives?
No , I just look for the best value and service. Many of the complaints against companies spoken of here are news to me.
All firms exist for one reason only ... to make money . That inceases the share value for the all important investors. That is the end of it, that is our capitalist society.
I do not trust an advertised " ethical stand" if they make one.
i have worked at chelmsford .
everybody seems so happy, but i couldn’t help wondering why all these volunteers give up their time and money, working for free for the future bethelites to live in such luxury .
all all the volunteers working there now will be kicked out on the street next year, with the lucky few laughing at the poor suckers who irked for free making this new bethel so amazing .
A quote :
"Have you seen the residential properties for sale in London?! Where the org top men reside? Luxury is an understatement"
I saw the estate agent's pics of the properties in the state they were offered for sale. Were they as "done up" when the Bethelites lived there? How many lived in them? Do we have confirmation that a bigwig had a house all to himself?
If so I will be pleased to join the indignant ones.
watchtower's ignorance around the historical background to many biblical directives has had a very negative effect on the lives of witnesses.. for instance paul said women should cover their heads because in corinth prostitutes walked the streets plying for business with their heads uncovered.
hence head coverings were never a symbol of headship but a directive very specific to that period, as was the blood directive!!.
watchtower leaders have been lawyers, businessmen, civil servants and door-to-door book salesmen, never, ever historians or biblical scholars.
Christian Guy.
I enjoyed reading your post. I am not sure that I agree with your conclusions but it was a good read and made me want to read those scriptures again, in full context.
perhaps this explains why the gb have a fixation with time and chronology.
also why they keep their adherents in a prison away from the real world.
lol.
A definition from the Cambridge English Dictionary:
B1 [ C, + sing/pl verb ] all the people of about the same age within a society or within aparticular family:
B2 [ C, + sing/pl verb ] a period of about 25 to 30 years, in which most human babiesbecome adults and have their own children:
B1 [ C, + sing/pl verb ] all the people of about the same age within a society or within aparticular family:
i kind of like the 50’s and early 60’s because of the innocence and “happy days” outlook by that generation.
it seems most people were pretty innocent and real.. would you rather be living in a different era or is this century working for you?
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I say that my time period has been the best to live in. The baby boomers born soon after WW2. We enjoyed the steady rise in affluence during the 50s and 60s, we had the best music in the 60s to early 70s ( IMHO) We experienced no wars or hardship on home soil.
I am glad to be in the last part of my life now, though. As time goes by I find it harder and harder to relate to the modern world of digital tech. , struggling economy, changing social habits and standards, and what sounds to me rotten music. !
new world translation - variantstentative translations below.
you native language experts can probably do better than me.
if so, help yourself.. matthew 24.3, english edition: “what will be the sign of... the conclusion of the system of things?”french, 1987: “quel sera le signe de… la conclusion du système de choses” (...the system of things)french revised: “quel sera le signe de… la période finale du monde?” (…the final period of the world)german revised: “und den abschluss des weltsystems erkennen?” (the conclusion of the world system)spanish revised: “qué señal habrá... de la conclusión del sistema?” (…conclusion of the system)matthew 24.45, "the faithful and discreet slave":italian revised: “lo schiavo fedele e saggio” = “the faithful and wise slave”portuguese revised: “o escravo fiel e prudente” = “the faithful and prudent slave”spanish revised, “el esclavo fiel y prudente” = “the faithful and prudent slave”matthew 25.46,(english edition), “cutting-off” contrasted with “everlasting life” in the same verse.
I recall hearing an audio from one of Ray Franz's associates , a Chris Sanches who had been involved in the original translation of The NWT into Spanish.. He maintained that the forward contained "a lie" , when it said this Bible has been translated from the original languages. In fact it was taken from the English NWT of the time.
the fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.
watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!
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The thread title said " anytime soon" ....that is the key. I suspect they can reinvent doctrine to explain why Armageddon is perpetually "soon" . Their lawyers and accountants can keep the business side going gor some years to come.
Eventually, I am sure it will wind up. Surely the years of big growth are over but there are 8 million devout dubs who dont want to know the truth about "the truth"
Eventually, though as Gamaliel said, it will wind up since it is NOT from God ( Acts chapt.5)
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many exjw’s don’t remember their birthdays or birthdates, some actually guess and are off by a year or two.
i’m always proud to say my age, and i’m a woman, here’s why.
i thought i would be dead in 1975. i turned 16 in 1975, and i thought god would kill me because he knew i hated being a jw, even though i hated it, i thought it was ‘da troof’.
Back in the day, I called at the bank to deliver a form that my wife had completed. Unfortunately she had neglected to write in her date of birth.
The bank clerk asked me , "what is your wife's date of birth?" ..... As non birthday keeping Witnesses, I had to admit I did not know..
"Fancy not knowing your wife's birthday" she tutted !
I did learn it after that.
i grew up as a witness, and left about 10 years ago, i'm currently researching witness numbers for a project i'm working on, and i can't seem to get an accurate number of baptised witnesses - hardly a surprise!
from their website it looks like they list the number of publishers instead of the number of baptised witnesses, so it totally works to obscure how many actual witnesses there are, apart from the fact it's morally dubious to class a publisher as a minister of god as they refer to publishers on their uk section of the site.
i also am trying to work out how many leave every year, even approximate figures would be great, from their own website it just looks like they try to massage figures to make them look as favourable as possible.
If they counted all the baptized, I and most others on here would be included. At least as it is, six months after stop reporting you are not counted and generally slip off the radar
a first time visit to a kingdom hall turned out to be a nightmare for this young lady.. .
https://www.azfamily.com/news/man-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-teen-girl-outside-glendale-church/article_2fe560c0-c36b-11e9-997b-fb25195e2ed1.html .
atlantis!
Poor kid!
Around here the car parks are monitored.....I always thought that was going over the top with security.......
