Posts by BluesBrother

21

Disfellowshipped JW's Still Have "Normal Family Relations"

by Sea Breeze in

"when someone is disfellowshipped from the religion, normal family relations continue, with the exception of spiritual fellowship.”a watchtower lawyer clears up this common misunderstanding:.

https://jwvictims.org/2017/11/19/watchtower-lawyer-lies-outright-in-court-about-disfellowshipping-and-shunning/ .

BluesBrother

The answer is, it all depends.........

In the case of a d/fd person still living in the home, family relations may continue, e.g. husband , baptised minor .

They should not discuss "spiritual things" , join in family worship or daytext discussion or chat about the faith.

It also depends on the conscience of the remaining dub, of course.

However, we all know what happens if they live away from the family home.

It is all wrong anyway, in my opinion. The Christian rule of love cannot mean that the scriptures are meant to be taken that way.

30

If you're "anointed" don't seek out other "anointed" so says the Watchtower January 2020

by RolRod in

when i was affiliated with the witnesses, there were barely 6,000 who profess to be of the anointed remnant.

i recently read somewhere that today there are over 20,000 who profess to be anointed.

that figure may be more when you consider those who meet and partake privately for fear of the stigma of claiming to be anointed.

BluesBrother

An interesting article, timed to study in Memorial season. It has some quite hard comments for the new anointed.

“So an anointed person is not surprised if some do not believe right away that he has been anointed. He realizes that the Bible tells us not to be quick to believe someone who says that God has given him a special responsibility. “...............

”They do not search out other anointed ones, hoping to discuss their anointing with them or to form private groups for Bible study. (Gal. 1:15-17) The congregation would not be united if anointed ones did those things. They would be working against the holy spirit, which helps God’s people to have peace and unity.“

“So the number includes those who think that they are anointed but are not. For example, some who used to partake later stopped. Others may have mental or emotional problems that make them believe that they will rule with Christ in heaven. ”

".............

So, they may feel put in their place by this article. It should be enough to deter one from claiming a new anointing, but we shall see.

Incidentally, just my thought but the article refers a lot to Jehovah having anointed them....does not Jesus come into it ?

34

Field service shit show

by solomon in

jw
friends

i just got back from field service.

i haven’t been out in a few months so now we don’t keep any written records and we don’t know which houses are do not calls.

i also noticed i was the only one with a book bag.

BluesBrother

“I know you guys have valid reasons for justifying /rationalising your participating in this ,but I just can`t get my head around it.”

I had to do the slow fade when I woke up and realised TTATT.. I was an elder and had to give talks ( in which I avoided the most controversial subjects ) and continue field service. I hated it. There is little worse than a hypocrite,and that is what I was.

when I could I got off the BOE , and I did not go door to door ever again. But Now I am free to talk with local dubs if I want, I am still happily married to my dub wife......... so I guess it was worth it.

58

Kh's will be gone in 5 years! Here's how it will work

by nowwhat? in

besides the media center they are going to build in n.y. it's been noted they are also building one and a studio in australia.

there is no way donations can cover these massive projects.

so the money will have to come from the sale of the remaining halls.

BluesBrother

Some years ago they gave up the regular weekly meeeting in private homes. I cannot see them going back to it.

1

Haysbridge

by Thekillersbrightside in

went here most of my jw life.

what were your experiences at this assembly hall?

i remember: the hours of boring talks, the refurb, eyeing up the single sisters (and not getting anywhere), attendance for what seemed like days, how everyone got themselves all new clothes for an assembly (but for what!?

BluesBrother

Went there a lot.....even helped ( or hindered ) during the building work transforming it from a formef Borstall to the Assembly Hall that it now is. Mostly, my work consisted of helping in the kitchen, making tea and opening cans of baked beans for builders lunch.

It was a very big project at the time, people were really up for it and I must admit that those volunteer days were a lot of fun.

As a hall to sit in, I always liked it .. comfortable and with a good view from all seats. The drawbacks were a) the location being miles from anywhere and b) limited parking which meant that you were asked to always take somebody with you.

So...the hall is ok - just a pity about the talks they put on..

18

Before cutting my hair my witness barber had to check with Bethel...really? Not a cult?

by Witness 007 in

i was balding and grey so i asked my witness barber friend to "just shave it all off" many brothers were doing the comb over which looked friggin stupid.

but oh no in the 1990's this was rebellious he had to call a brother we knew at bethel to see if it was ok. we got his ok to go ahead but at the time i could help thinking about the no beard rule and how controlled and cultish we were..

BluesBrother

Calling Bethel over a haircut? That is absolutely absurd! The guy had no backbone at all.

11

Former elders did you ever ?

by Fadeaway1962 in

hi did any former elders ever suggest that bro & sis should go to the police?.

there was a group of sis with various health conditions and on medications had a gathering and drank a lot wine , one of the sister physically assaulted another sis , myself and a another elder were assigned to deal with it after hearing what happened i said to the sis she could contact the police the other elder a lot older gave me a dirty look , the sis said i trust you bro to deal with it .. i think that's why witnesses don't get the police involved because we have been convinced that we can trust the elders and the organisation , and to trust and have faith that god knows all the facts and can read hearts and will deal with it in his time scale and encouraged to leave it with him and not to bring reproach on his name..

BluesBrother

Fortunately, all my time I never had a case that would merit Police involvement.

We were kept busy dealing with smokers , adulterers and fornicaters

23

Will Armageddon Survivors Be Able to Marry?

by Expanded-Mind in

jw
friends

hi blondie!.

thirteen years ago you commented on an idea circulating among some jws prior to 1975, that there was a possibility that armageddon survivors might not be able to marry.. "these vows that honor god are used—not from the bible but the only ones sanctioned by the wts.. for as long as we both shall live together on earth according to god's marital arrangement.. when i was in my 20’s, many jws interpreted this to mean that at some point in the 'new system' marriage would end.

since this was shortly before 1975, many jws rushed to get married worried that they would never have the chance (and never have the chance to have sex.

BluesBrother

Expanded Mind....

Sorry I misread your question. We always had the hope of marriage after Armageddon, after all ,we expected to survive in those days. The possible “termination of the marriage arrangement “ was seen as a very future thing- like at the end of the 1000 years. At that time Earth would be comfortably full.

Looking back , what naive fools we were !

23

Will Armageddon Survivors Be Able to Marry?

by Expanded-Mind in

jw
friends

hi blondie!.

thirteen years ago you commented on an idea circulating among some jws prior to 1975, that there was a possibility that armageddon survivors might not be able to marry.. "these vows that honor god are used—not from the bible but the only ones sanctioned by the wts.. for as long as we both shall live together on earth according to god's marital arrangement.. when i was in my 20’s, many jws interpreted this to mean that at some point in the 'new system' marriage would end.

since this was shortly before 1975, many jws rushed to get married worried that they would never have the chance (and never have the chance to have sex.

BluesBrother

Wt 14.. 8/15

”Is there sound reason for hoping that resurrected ones will be able to marry? Put simply, the answer is that we cannot say.”

Nowadays they lean toward saying ‘yes’ , without committing themselves. I think a lot of widowed dubs cherish the hope.

38

Dumb things JWs believed

by JimmyYoung in

i am not talking about the usual crap from the cult writings, but rather things idiots believed on their own.

maybe even helped on by the cult but not directly taught.

i knew an old man now long gone kunde in michigan.

BluesBrother

Ok , I thought twice before posting this , but I swear this is true. Back in the day a sister I knew said that the best health treatment was a drink that is perfectly free and we all see it several times a day, she practiced urophagia.

That was drinking your own urine . She called it the "water of life"

I would NOT recommend it !