Posts by BluesBrother

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How much do Elders actually get along with each other?

by Davros in

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i was reading in the shepherding book that elders should “ cultivate and maintain friendships with one another.”, and thought to myself “bulls$it!” i remember that most of the elders in my old congregation were nothing but nasty asses.

i know it may vary from congregation to congregation, but do elders generally get along with each other behind closed doors in elders meetings?

or, are they often in conflict with each other?

BluesBrother

There were indeed strained relationships within the various bodies that I served with, sometimes this grew from family resentments or just personality clashes. The worst thing was that it was always made to seem like it was doing the Lords work, so to disagree was to argue with “God’s arrangement “

in the main though it jogged along O K. We were never close socially, elders stayed with their families. I didn’t get on particularly with any of them. It was a lot like going to work , you get on as best you can with the people you find yourself with.

Edit: I should have mentioned the situation where two congregations share one hall. Inevitably the two bodies have little time for the other, over some matter regarding the Hall

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YOU ARE HER EVERYTHING!

by Atlantis in

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you are what she wanted to be!please, let us remove any blame to anyone right up front.

what happened to petra was not the fault of mark o'donnell, listener, corney, mike and kim, or anyone else.. constant rejection and shunning even at an early age, the depression was storing up inside of her.

she was shunned inside the hall and outside the hall.

BluesBrother

Atlantis, old friend.

I am so sorry to read of Petra's troubles... Depression is a swine and many of us ,including myself have been struck by it at times. I can empathize, although I would not be so trite as to say that I understand.

Please reassure her that she is respected and loved on here for the stirling work that she does in assisting you to provide these valuable documents to us .(Incidentally, I read any comment about the documents as being a criticism of the publisher - the WTS - not yourselves by any means. )

Anyway , I hope she is better soon and back to her old self sending stuff to us.

Please give her a virtual hug from this old fool in England.

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A Salute to Petra/Atlantis

by Slidin Fast in

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whilst i have never quite understood whether petra and atlantis are one or multiple entities i recognise the value of their work and web of contacts.

i think it is fair to say that no-one has consistently contributed more solid gold intelligence to this site.

no one has reliably passed on more bomb shells and solid news as well as day to day minutiae.

BluesBrother

I'd give five gold stars to Atlantis and Petra for the wonderful job they do ....it is really appreciated by a hell of a lot of people.

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1991 Watchtower study article just prior to WTS joining UN

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

please see the study article, “their refuge–a lie!” in the june 1, 1991 watchtower, noting paragraphs 1, 10 and 11. paragraph 1 calls christendom “that apostate religious organization.” why apostate?.

paragraph 10 asserts that “she insinuates herself into the favor of the political leaders of the nations–this despite the bible’s warning that friendship with the world is enmity with god.” to support that assertion, paragraph 11 quotes an unnamed “recent book” which reports that “no fewer than 24 catholic organizations are represented at the un.” how were such organizations represented at the un?.

the unnamed book quoted in paragraph 11 is new genesis by robert muller.

BluesBrother

In 2001 I was a newish member of this board and it was some on here and elsewhere in the exJW community that helped expose this. I was shocked to say the least.

To think that I as a Group Study Conductor had taught the faithful all that stuff in the Revelation book about the "Scarlet coloured beast" whilst at the same time the Gov.Body were cozying up to the U N as an NGO of it! ...... . I was disgusted.

Thank you for bringing this important topic back to the top for the benefit of newer ones.

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Circuit overseers wives.

by stan livedeath in

or..as i remember the title..circuit servants wives.

but then i left 40+ years ago.. any recollections of those females that led such an unnatural existence?.

those that i recall seemed such aloof creatures..

BluesBrother

"I seem to remember that they all had multiple eating disorders"

That went for the C/Os too . So many had to be on special diets, must have been hell to put them up.

When I was young the wives were tough old birds who were absolutely fearless and tactless in the ministry. They put up with a lot and had no time for those who gave less than they did. One I remember, in the '90s I guess earned the nickname 'The Terminator ' because she was so blunt that if you took her on your study.....they would end it after!

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Listen Obey and Be Blessed

by Anna Marina in

thought i'd share if no one has done so already.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxf75u-xoji.

BluesBrother

Well! Did you know that this album was No.1 in the classical hit parade (UK) last week..sadly down to No.3 now....

Who'd a thought it.... A kingdom song being top of the best sellers in the wicked old world. ( I bet it was not the most popular track)

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Yet More Apostate Damage Control

by neat blue dog in

unbelievable.

okay actually it's very believable.

check out the latest video on jwdotorg:.

BluesBrother

Yes he mentions some of the criticisms levelled against them , child abuse, flip flopping etc, but does he answer those criticisms? No, he just urges his audience to remain faithful and trust the Gov. Body, as if we all knew that they are beyond reproach. ...like Jesus.

I suppose to the trusting sheep, they are!

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UPDATE: Fanatical Mom wants to report me

by Scarlett_Martin in

*** update 2020/11/21 ****.

hello people,.

some time ago i made my first on this forum after i have just woken up.. i was very scared and honestly i am still amazed from the fact that i am still getting replies in the old thread.. here is the link to my previous thread: link.

BluesBrother

You seem to be going the right way and if you play it carefully you may come out of this with no formal barrier to stop you and your parents having some relationship ,should they be willing.

Just keep going. It is traumatic we know but it has to be done. You will be o k in the end.

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Was 2019 the last convention ever?

by joey jojo in

in a recent feel-good instagram post about the 2019 international convention, a jw remarked, "was it the last convention we will have?".

there is no doubt jw's feel they are truly special and that world events revolve around them directly.

there is also no doubt that whether we get a vaccine for covid or not, and at the moment, its looking very certain that we will, that the world will continue to spin and life will go on, regardless of the beliefs of the jw's.. once the pandemic is over i'm wondering if some jw's will realise that even though they lived through a notable period of time, life kept sailing on, and maybe they aren't that special after all?

BluesBrother

2020 was the best ever.......nobody had to go !

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how do spouse's treat their partners if they leave the cult?

by mickbobcat in

so i was fortunate enough to have a wife that listened and saw what i was saying was true and that the cult is bs.

but i wonder how bad it is in a relationship that one goes out of the cult and the other stays in.

i can see that being a real issue for a marriage.

BluesBrother

Mine has been good. Obviously at first thinks were traumatic- it was a shock to her when I admitted that I no longer believed. She has had to face up to not being an elder’s wife but becoming what they call a “spiritual widow “ Believe me the difference in how she is treated is enormous.She gets no respect at all.

However we have settled down now and our relationship is better than it has ever been.

My wife is still a staunch believer but we accept each other as we are. I go some way to support her, we used to attend some meetings, nowadays I sit with her through a zoom meeting, that is just give-and-take for all she does for me...I am lucky I know.