i’d like to marry my best friend of 30+ years, turned ‘secret’ girlfriend of 1 ½ years who is a jehovah’s witness, born into it, baptized and an active ‘pioneer’.
our marriage would happen prior to letting any of her jw friends and cohorts know that we are together.
once married she may simply come forward and ‘admit’ or we may wait until it’s found out – one way or the other, the reason for this marriage is not customary – i am hoping that by doing so she can avoid being ‘marked’ or possibly ‘disfellowshipped’ once our relationship is no longer a secret and due to our already being married at that point, there can be no notion from society elders about her ending the relationship.
There is something very wrong about this . We are told this lady is living a double life as a respectable JW but having also a sexual relationship with her fiancé . She is lying to all her friends and ministers .
Should she marry she will continue lying to them by denying the prior relationship.
That is no basis for a happy life , even if she gets away with it.
jws believe that today, the time we live in is the worst time ever in history.
i know cause i just had a jw tell me yesterday this was the case.
he pointed to covid, the russian-ukraine war, the high gas prices and the food shortage happening.
I have had conversations with dub relatives along similar lines . They know that these times are the worst because they hear it from the WTS on their Apple IPad . They see shocking images from Ukraine on their massive televisions and worry that if the price of petrol gets worse they might have limit the use of their car.
All these things were not available to people like us even a few years ago... and they think times are bad! This takes nothing away from the real suffering of those in Ukraine and Yemen , and other such places . Even so , the world has suffered worse things in the past . It is all about what is shown to you .
i would like to collect as many instances of watchtower dishonesty and pretense as possible.
here is one from a bulgarian as an example of what i'm looking for.. are jehovah's witnesses disfellowshipped for receiving blood in a hospital?.
helge fauskanger writes: "if witnesses can’t convince the elders that they are utterly “repentant” for this vampiric lapse of theirs, they will be held to have disassociated themselves from the religion — even if they never said a word about wanting to leave it!
The Watchtower has a shocking record of misrepresenting and misquoting scientists
there are plenty of examples here . I have always found this site reliable.
for one thing i am older.
this is what i look like now or at least on jan 1, 2022.. .
yes, 69 years old.. i moved once.
Well well, you put me to shame Lady Lee with the way that you cope with your health problems.
May I say, looking at your new photo that I would not have guessed from that , what you tell us. You still look good ….🥀
it is nice to see some familiar faces here.
for those who don't know who i am my last id was lady lee.
thought i would drop by and say hello; see how people are doing.
Hello Lady Lee..... It is good to hear from you, after all, you are something of a legend around here.
Sorry to read of your health problems, I guess age and ill health catch up with the best of us. I send my best wishes.
Many Of our old friends have gone but several remain so please stay around. We would benefit from your quality input.
i'm longgone.
i was raised as a jw and i was in the "religion" for three decades.
i was an ex-jw for five years before i started to no longer even regard myself as an ex-jw, just as a person.
Welcome LongGone... we are a very mixed bunch here but with a common past in the WTS... As you say , you have to have been in it to understand it.
mchenry county, woodstock, il .
northwest herald, shaw local news.
breaking news - read below full article - (article was blocked unless the reader has a subscription.
So these obedient elders face jail time for doing what they were told to do by so called “Jehovah’s Organisation “ ... that is a tough break but only fair if it broke the State Law.
Critics say they were reckless etc but , knowing the way things are inside the Org , and especially if you are an elder.. you take the word of The Society above all others.
If this anonymous voice on the phone said “ don’t report- you are exempt from the law” , they would accept that unquestionably.
I’ll bet there is a no end of regret and saying “God ! I wish I had got his name !”
[ Edit.. we ought not to forget the poor kid who suffered horribly due to the perpetrators wickedness and their bungling]
administering a blood transfusion when directed by a superior - jehovah's witness policy effective june 15th, 2018. while the hospital liasion committee elders were instructed that they may inform doctors and nurses of this decision, this letter was not allowed to be distributed to anyone outside of hlc members.. as a result of the concealment of this letter, and by virtue of the fact that this information was only to be shared verbally with jehovah's witness medical professionals and others, confusion erupted across the united states and in other branch offices of jehovah's witnesses.
countless letters were received at watchtower headquarters in new york from concerned jw nurses, paramedics, and others who were instructed verbally on this new policy, but which contradicted existing written policy that had been in effect for many decades.. in addition to letters from witness medical professionals, circuit overseers in the field wrote to the us branch and hospital information desk in new york about the problems caused by this unreleased policy.
for example, south carolina circuit overseer brandon roberts reported to headquarters that "the majority of the nurses in our circuit were not aware of this updated policy.
What does “ administer” include? I am thinking of the nurse or HCA who actually connects it to the patient’s arm .
What about the one who fits a cannula to the patient ready to take the blood transfusions? Or the porter who brings it to the ward? Or anyone along the supply chain ? They all contribute.
watchtower 1954 p.511 "why do watchtower publications now show jesus with short hair and no beard?
because he is shown that way in older representations of him that are older then the traditional effeminate looking pictures.".
watchtower 1968 p.286 "bible evidence and a recent review shows that jesus did have a beard..." charles russell style of beard was popular at bethel...till rutherford took over.
I think beard discussions are pretty much old hat... We all know the WT used to speak against them for publishers... they seemed to think it made you look like a hippie!
That all changed years ago . Now there are plenty of bearded brothers and elders
may 2022 study watchtower page 6, par.
5 “satan instigated an attack on the anointed brothers who were taking the lead in the kingdom-preaching work.
prominent ones among them were the figurative “two witnesses” spoken of as being killed.”.
Interesting question but looking at the JW Library it seems to relate the wild beast out the abyss , that killed the two witnesses, to the wild beast out of the sea in Rev. 13 . They say that the terms “the sea” and “the abyss” can both be drawn from the Greek word.
The teaching is therefore that the political system jailed Rutherford and co , not the League or the UNO
