Posts by BluesBrother

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Our J.W friends still have issues with beards 2022??Why?

by Witness 007 in

our witness friend who during covid grew his beard has been hassled by elders who asked him "why" he chose to have facial growth.

he for real, had to give an answer why.

this is pharasees total rubbish.

BluesBrother

Back in the day they published this about beards.. after explaining why they now depicted Jesus with a beard, they said:

Wt 1968 5/1 p 288

“In paradise restored on earth it would not be out of order if men returned to wearing beards, in perfect fashion, like Adam in Eden.”

In UK these days it does not seem to be a problem, I have seen several bearded brothers, including elders.

The counsel against them ,in my times started in the late sixties/ seventies when they were seen to be a “ hippie” thing. Most of us could not see a problem with them though, if neat and tidy.

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Upbringing

by punkofnice in

i was brought up as a born-in(tm) here in the uk.

it wasn't until i was 50 that the scales fell from my eyes, i woke up, got da'd from the cult and my wife was advised to leave me by the elders whom i had served with on the boe.

one of which i know wanted to schtupf her.

It seems that my life followed a similar course to yours. My mother was a doorstop convert when I was toddler. I was brought up in “The Truth” , then MS , then elder which I served for many years . Like you I was around 50 when I woke up.

“50 wasted bloody years.“.....indeed.

I chose the slow fade rather than D/a myself. Luckily my wife is not a typical dub and we still get on well. I make compromises to help out...

Anyway , do I regret that wasted life ? Yes!

I despise the Organisation that caused it all. But life goes on. We have few years remaining so I would rather try and find contentment, if I can ( it does not always happen)

38

Replacing God?

by punkofnice in

we seem to be if a more secular society here in the west, these days.

i'm speaking from the uk.. with the lack of belief in god/s, i'm wondering if all the seeming (note: i said seeming!

), deification of people like greta thunberg, george floyd and celebs amongst others, if people who have no real belief system, are filling the gap left by god with people?.

BluesBrother

“Or has the World gone totally stupid?“

In my later years, I often think so... maybe that is a simplistic view but all I can conclude. The modern world I do not understand. I an often at odds with it all and, frankly I am glad that I am nearer to the end of life and have no offspring to worry about.

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UN and Governing Body and an accounting

by AnnaNana in

joseph and mary were not in a spiritually adulterous relationship with the roman authorities, the "legs of iron".

joseph and mary were not perfect.

the governing body of the modern-day organization of jehovah's witnesses is not perfect.

BluesBrother

God’s servants on earth have always still shown human failings , eg. Peter’s succumbing To Jewish influence ( racism) and Paul’s “sharp burst of anger “ . However these were personal failings , not teaching errors. Whenever Holy Spirit guided them to write or speak, it was accurate and true.

I have no problem with the GB being normal men. I chuckled at AM3. buying a crate of whisky and Stephen Lett’s peculiarities and ill judged comments. I do see a problem when their teaching is seriously off and has to be corrected or quietly forgotten.

You know of course about the massive campaign 100 years ago to promote the teaching that “ Millions Now Living Will Never Die”. The then President had to admit later that “ I made an ass of myself” over that. Did Holy Spirit direct that campaign? Clearly not.

What I see in this Organisation is the hallmark of an company of men , human failings abound and no amount of their claims of being directed by God and Jesus, will convince me otherwise.

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Current Meeting Attendees

by blondie in

jw
friends

does anyone know what publication is being studied at the midweek meetings.

i used to know but it has flown out of my brain.

it is treating some of past issues that were once taught by the wts or have seen material that questions it.

BluesBrother

This publication “Enjjoy Life Forever “ is not really a book , it is the interactive study material that they now use for new students. It seems laughably simple and short on detailed information but asks the student the kind of questions that can only be answered the Watchtower way. It includes videos. I guess that fills the time.

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Hello from the UK

by KIMSILVIO in

jw
friends

i am still on my holiday around the uk and currently am in the midlands if anyone is around i’d love to catch up - hope you are all well xx.

BluesBrother

“I'm used to southerners so my standards are pretty low🤷‍♀️“

Come On , I am a Southerner (UK) and I think our reputation is undeserved. I have been pleasantly surprised lately by the kindness of our neighbours.

We are who we are, many prefer to keep to ourselves but offers of assistance are there often enough.

To the original poster on holiday, I would say that the visitor experience is different than living here . There are many beautiful places to visit, just take a brolly

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HM Queen Elizabeth is dead.

by stan livedeath in

long live the king..

BluesBrother

All I can say is thank god for streaming tv since the normal media is cancelled and replaced by insincere tributes and rehashed film of Royal tours .

Perhaps it was my dub upbringing that made me disinterested in the Royal Family. I sympathise with anybody that has lost a mother/grandmother, but she meant nothing to me.

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Latest jw broadcast referring to allegations of protecting pedophiles

by jonahstourguide in

hi folks.. i put this in abuse as i thought it relevant.. a physically in mentally out friend that considers our friendship greater than religion told me that on the latest broadcast steven lett alluded to satans voice being behind people that claim the organisation protects pedophiles.. my friend then went on to say they must be in damage control.. he added, but that is correct, they are hiding their internal records.

is not that construed as protecting the accused?.

if i get the inclination i may post a snippet of what was actually said.. sadly my friend is trying to protect his family relationships and so goes along with the charade.. his situation weighs on me but, as many of you here know, it can be a difficult road to travel.. jtg.

BluesBrother

Had a look at this. We are ,apparently. the innocent dupes of the great ventriloquist Satan who is putting words in our mouth as he did the serpent in Eden. If we have loved ones still in, they can view us as well meaning, but they should reject out of hand what we say.

Lett said the media is biased and slants the stories against them . It is corrupt and only interested in profit. I gather that includes the most respected news sources.

This really smacks of fear.

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refusing to go in service with someone

by enoughisenough in

did you ever refuse to go in service with someone?

i did.... i went to the kh to meet for service and 3 brothers were there.

i told the brother taking the lead, that when he made up the car groups to take note i had a plan of my own -the 3 brothers could go together and i would do my own thing.

BluesBrother

When I used to lead the FS groups , it was always difficult if people had “plans to work together “, especially if Sis. Fruitful had brought along all her kids…

I did have one Bro. that people did not like working with. I used to get phone calls after the Service with people saying “please don’t put me with him again “ . He was an awkward so and so who said and did his own thing so perhaps they argued? He was o k with me though.

I was more relaxed about men and women working together. I tried to treat people as grown ups.

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Did the Watchtower Society ban Vaccinations and Organ Transplants?

by Vanderhoven7 in

an avid wts supporter writes:.

re: vaccinations: vaccinations have never been banned.

if they were, then no representative of the wts would have been allowed to travel overseas when vaccines were compulsory around 1920 when vaccines was regularly in the news, there was both positive and negative information printed in the golden age (forerunner of the awake) but not from the staff writers, but from out side sources of article by medical doctors at the time and others that responded to those articles.. re: organ transplants: organ transplants were never forbidden by the society.

BluesBrother

All of us in at the time believed that organ transplants were forbidden. There may not be a quote that states a d/f penalty but it was well understood. You are in no doubt with comments like this

Wt 1967 p 702/704

“. Those who submit to such operations are thus living off the flesh of another human. That is cannibalistic. However, in allowing man to eat animal flesh Jehovah God did not grant permission for humans to try to perpetuate their lives by cannibalistically taking into their bodies human flesh, whether chewed or in the form of whole organs or body parts taken from others.”

The full article, a QFR, is worth reading on Watchtower on line, if you have an interest.