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  A question about the contemporary generation teaching following a conversation with a JW apologist

  by Giles Gray in

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  2. beliefs

  i would like to ask the ex-jws on this site to put their ‘apologists hat’ back on for a moment, so that i can go through the overlapping generation teaching in an attempt to make sense of it.

  i apologise if these points have already been addressed on this site.a quick background for the reason for my request… having never confronted a jw apologist on the topic, i recently engaged with a jw regarding the official understanding of a ‘generation’ and unfortunately he didn’t have an answer to the points i was making.

  i was left a little confused as to what the official jw response would/should be.so i was hoping that my thoughts below might be considered from an apologist’s perspective.the point in question relates to this section of the watchtower article below from 2008, as well as the jw.org video explanation of the overlapping generation:---:w08 2/15[box on page 25] can we calculate the length of “this generation”?the word “generation” usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event.

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  BluesBrother

  Jehovah’s Witness elders are not Biblical archaeologists, they have no knowledge apart from what the WT has taught them . Indeed, it has been levelled at me that I “ would know nothing without the Society, so why do I dispute what they say?”.

  The fact is that nowadays we can find out information in readable forms without a degree in archaeology. Of course we have to guard against false information, but that can usually be spotted and when subjected to a group such as ours , falsehoods are called out.

  JWs are not permitted to read contradictory information. The video correctly showed the attitude. JWs just trust the Society. Of course the Bible does not give a BCE date for the fall of Jerusalem ,it is calculated by men .

  What the Bible does say is “ Do not put your trust in nobles nor in the son of earthling man” (Ps. 146 : 3) NWT .
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  Sister In "Pants" Carrying the Microphone--Brother in "Jeans" out in Service!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  click the image to enlarge.. sister carrying microphone at kingdom hall in pants!.

  https://postimg.cc/jdjysmgt.

  brother in blue jeans out in service.. https://postimg.cc/z36bj89h .

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  BluesBrother

  Would never have happened at my old hall, mind you, it should have….

  The first pic - Looking at the rest of the cong. it could well be in the Far East. So cultural differences could account for it. ( nice looking sister 😊)
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  An Anti-Aging Pill ( Maybe)

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  various researchers a have been looking for an anti-aging pill based on the assumption that, if you can maintain a higher.

  level of various endogenous anti-oxidants ( catalase, sod, etc), you could probably slow down the aging process.

  even some skeptics.

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  BluesBrother

  Who wants to live longer ? When my time is up and the grim reaper comes calling, I am happy to go.
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  Sex and YHWH - 2 Samuel Ch 12.

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there's been a few commentaries on this topic of late, so i'm offering a few more thoughts.. here's an extract from 2 samuel 12, consider for a moment the implications.. 7 then nathan said to david, “you are the man!

  this is what the lord, the god of israel, says: ‘i anointed you king over israel, and i delivered you from the hand of saul.

  8 i gave your master’s house to you, and your master’s wives into your arms.

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  BluesBrother

  Yes, there is no disguising it….. women were considered as little more than property in OT times. Jesus changed all that ( read Mathew 19) and Christian husbands are under the command to “ Love their wives”
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  I Work in a hospital 17 years religious reality death check!!

  by Witness 007 in

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  so 17 years in a hospital alot of ptsd...i sometimes go the prayer room and read the prayers of family members who i know later the loved one died anyway.

  if you have any idea about god you area kidding yourself.

  good doc live...bad doc you die!.

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  BluesBrother

  People who , in sadness, pray to God for a favour to spare their loved one are in error. It has been seen millions of times that he does not do that. He just doesn’t.

  Mind you , If I ever get to that state facing the death of my wife..... I bet I will pray hard too. What else can you do ?
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  I'm Not Saying Americans are Stupid

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. humour

  but maybe they over-value their own abilities.

  c'mon, imagining you could fight a gorilla, lion, elephant, or bear with your bare hands?!?.

  this could be an amazing new reality tv show though ... "ok, bubba, you've just beaten a dog ... now for $16,000 do you want to fight a chimpanzee?

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  BluesBrother

  According to the blurb at the bottom they surveyed over 2000 Brits to to get their answers. I wonder how they found them ? In a pub after a few beers , perhaps?

  So it seems we can’t blame stupidity all on Americans.....
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  The JW governing body are ALREADY priests!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many jw's are aware they have "priests?".

  w02 5/1 p. 16 par.

  9 jehovah hates the course of treachery - "comparably, for more than a century now, the anointed brothers of christ, those with the heavenly hope, have served as “a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to god.”.

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  BluesBrother

  The post from “enoughisenough” says a lot. There were often small comments in the articles that , taken by themselves, would seem strange. But as long-standing dubs we just fitted it in with our own prior understanding and let it go by.

  I can remember saying that it must be difficult to keep writing articles, by a team of writers, and have them all fit everything exactly. Comments like the above we would led wash over us.
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  For Born-Ins - If You Were 18 Again, What 7 Things Would You do Differently?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. friends

  here's mine:.

  1. go immediately to college and study construction management.

  2. set up an ira and start contributing every year.

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  BluesBrother

  Oh, to be 18 years old and crucially to know what I know now…I would do everything different.. Who knows where or how I would have ended up.. but at least the mistakes and successes would be my own , and I would have had more fun along the way…

  Reminds me of that old song from The Faces “ Ooh La La

  I wish that I knew what I know now
  When I was younger
  I wish that I knew what I know now
  When I was stronger”
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  Watchtower November 2022... Adapt to new adjustments and new changes

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | november 2022. study article 48. keep your senses when your loyalty is tested.

  14 vlado, a 73-year-old elder in slovenia, struggled when his congregation merged with another congregation and the kingdom hall that he attended was closed.

  he says: “i did not understand why such a beautiful kingdom hall would be closed.

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  BluesBrother

  “ When you support such changes and loyally stick to Jehovah and the organization that he is using, you will surely be blessed.​”

  Makes me wonder , what are they softening the r &f up for, what more unpopular changes are coming?

  When I was at work, the company started making a big thing about adapting to change, with training courses and videos about supporting changes …

  we all wondered what was up and sure enough, we were all downgraded and jobs altered for the worst
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  Latest Watchtower tells THE TRUTH!!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the sheeple have always been indoctrinated to think of themselves as witnesses for jehovah.. but the 8m followers of the jw governing body are now told a biblical truth - that they are witnesses for jesus!.

  december 2022 study watchtower, p.21, par.

  17 = "one of the primary reasons why satan wages war against god’s people is that they “have the work of bearing witness concerning jesus.” (rev.

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  BluesBrother

  Yes , they bear witness to Jesus in that they recognise his place as the ‘son of God’ , he is the one charged with the removal of this system, and I have seen him called the ‘foremost Jehovah’s Witness. But that is a long way from the way that mainstream Christians view him .

  I have long said that they ought to give him greater respect in their worship...

  I thought last week’s study article was a tad disrespectful to Jesus, being entitled “ Support Our Overseer Jesus “ ... Overseer? That is a word to describe one of the local “brothers “ , not the mighty king of the Kingdom...