At least we are getting a more honest answer .... When asked all these detailed questions they seem to be saying.... “ Er..... how the heck should we know? ( shrug )
BluesBrother
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Disfellowshipped ones who die before the "last minute repentance"
by jonahstourguide inhi all.. i've posted this in humour given that most of jw doctrine changes and flip flops are just so.. as stated, if there is now to be a 'last minute redemption'.what happens to the aforementioned folk?.
cannot wait for a explane-ation.
am i the only one giggling at this??
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List of main points from 2023 AGM
by ExBethelitenowPIMA in1. doctrinal changes how new light comes about.
the gb raise questions then talk about it, unless it’s unanimous they wait, then years later talk again if it’s unanimous it then gets announced as new light.. 2. the gb are imperfect and sometimes make mistakes.
they are not to apologise or even admit they were wrong.
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BluesBrother
I have not seen the video. The following is extracts from the article on the AvoidJW site , which reads like someone’s detailed notes . Therefore I cannot vouch 100% for it’s accuracy but it seems o k and I accord with other reports.
“ D Splane
“What do we see from these examples? They were wicked, they did bad things, they repented, they started doing what was right and then Jehovah had given them a clean slate.” John 5:22 “ The father Judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the son.” Jesus has been the authority to judge. The authority Jesus has been given is also the resurrection and the life. Jehovah knows everything of those that had died, but since Jesus is doing the resurrecting- he also knows about the dead and the living. “ We shouldn’t be dogmatic about who will and who won’t be resurrected, but we trust Jesus Christ and Jehovah that they will do what is right.” He then brings up the Tribulation and mentions how the crowd’s wheels must be turning. Before he goes into the Great Tribulation he checks his watch and leaves the stage for Geoffrey Jackson to conclude “
G Jackson
“ 1 All those who die during the great tribulation, will they go into eternal death and not be resurrected? Well we can say their fake Gods wont be, everlasting cutting off. We simply don’t know.
- Will all those living during the great Tribulation, have a full opportunity to decide either for the Kingdom or against? We don’t know. We aren’t the Judges, its above our pay grade” -He coyly shrugs it off and dives into statistics about how many people die and are born each day. “-Is it reasonable for us to say that Jehovah and Jesus immediately label those of goats even though they have not had a full opportunity to respond? Is it possible those may be resurrected as righteous persons? An upcoming watchtower will give us all the details on this. What do we need to keep doing? We need to keep preaching the message to as many people as possible. Leave the judging to Jehovah and Jesus they will always do the right thing, the merciful now that we can be sure of that!””
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With no reporting necessary do they still need a territory guy?
by carla innow that they no longer have to report hours do they still need a territory guy?
maps?
etc...?.
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BluesBrother
Please speak English.
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2023-S-147-October-Announcements And Reminders
by Atlantis in2023-s-147-october-announcements and reminders.. page 1. https://imgbox.com/vjct8rt3 .
page 2. https://imgbox.com/c0tbzgxy .
grandpa!.
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BluesBrother
Kids doing maintenance? Health and safety?.
Mind you I used to lend a hand , or get in the way more like, in the late 50s-60s.
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"A good REPORT invigorates the bones." (Proverbs 15:30) 🤣🤣🤣
by BoogerMan inyesterday's annual meeting "report" was soooooooooooo invigorating!.
memories:.
km 1/97 p. 7 question box - why should we report our field service activity promptly each month?
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BluesBrother
What a sea change from the past when it was All about your report . I can remember the big chart at the front of the hall that showed the publishers and hours and a ten hour quota per month. Woe betide you if you failed to make it !
Nathan Knorr must be turning in his grave.
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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!
by BoogerMan inthis is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!
reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.
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BluesBrother
I cannot see that Data Protection has anything to do with a dub’s time in the Ministry.. I can only think that it is just not as important any more……. I am sure that less time will be spent.
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About quiting hours
by Gorb inwhat i'm thinking: can a jw be happy that the hour rapport quits?
can you show you are happy with it in the kingdom hall?
knowing it was one of the control systems of the local elders and co?.
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BluesBrother
My wife was delighted when I told her… She has never been able to report big hours , ,health reasons , and has often felt that they thought less of her . Now they won’t know…
I imagine the big hour ( look at me, I’m always out) ones will be sorry .
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Breaking news - no more reporting
by wannaexit ini didint search to see if its been talked about.
big news for jws sheeple , no more reporting.
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BluesBrother
Holy Moly.....
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Jehovah's Witnesses and Tattoos
by NotFormer ini was wondering about the jw attitude towards getting tattoos.. redditors suggest that the only jws who have them would have got them before they were baptised.. jw.org gives a meally-mouthed "true christians wouldn't" response.. but no-one (that i've seen so far) answers the question i'm actually asking: is getting a tattoo after being baptised a disfellowshipping offence?.
if not disfellowshipable, how would a typical jw congregation treat someone who got a tattoo after baptism?
would they really treat it like it is a conscience issue?.
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BluesBrother
I have heard JWs make comments that having tattoos is wrong and would not be allowed. However, when I looked it up ,a WT said that the Jewish law restricting them was because they were a part of pagan religion and that restriction would not apply today .
The article then went on to point out all the practical reasons for not having one and discouraged it. I have never known a young dub with a tattoo. I have known a couple of older ones who had them in their youth before they were Witnesses.
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Can Elders Voluntarily Resign?
by NotFormer inan elder with half a brain (and they must exist 🧐) is going to see the writing on the wall with the way the wt is manoeuvring them into taking the fall over csa cases.
can an elder in good standing step down with no consequences, official or social?.
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BluesBrother
I resigned .. I used phrases like burn out , depression loss of spirituality etc.. During the last few months I had been playing up a little so they should not have been too surprised. They wanted me to stay on a bit but ……
It was wonderful to feel free !