my wife zoe and i often talk about her grandmother who has never been a jw but is an excellent christian by other opinions.
she has led such a good life always kind and tried to follow jesus example.
before the agm new light my wife often thought according to current light is that as long as she dies before armageddon she will be resurrected.
Of course those who point out that Arm. Is not real , are correct..
However the up to date WT view interests me since I have close family ties.. The new thoughts sound interesting ,but I am waiting until I can here the original unedited AGM talks before I finally decide what they now say…
Terrible thing…Since India has capital punishment, I hope the perpetrator gets it .
Perhaps it is time for them to employ professional security guards. As an attendant we knew there were also security guards but although keen…. they were amateurs.
1975 washing dc, kingdom ministry school that lasted for 2 weeks, with russell cantwell as the instructor.. .
https://imgbox.com/zykcnigq.
were any of you brothers there?.
I attended that 2 week course. In the UK, at a local KH.. We has a Bethel Instructor a Bro. David Gibson. He was first class …. the finest teacher I have ever known, in or outside the Society.
I was a young newly appointed elder and I came out of there feeling it was all wonderful.
i found a tract at my door.
it was from a local baptist church!
( actually,i think someone wanted to give me a donation for the left over yardsale items i gave away.
I never agreed with that edict not to accept other people’s tracts. I used to carry on. I felt embarrassed when the Uber elder I was with once stopped me from taking one…..
my grandmother, an immigrant from austria, was.
two of my aunts, their husbands, both elders, various cousins and two of my sisters are witnesses.
so is my grand uncle.
I can attest to this attitude. Since I stopped serving the WTS my wife has been a “spiritual widow “ . She has received damn all in terms of shepherding or interest . A while back she contacted the COBE to remind him she was still here. Apologies and promises followed…. No different though….
2023-10-17-legal seminar.
page 1. https://imgbox.com/cm4qip9v .
page 2. https://imgbox.com/rvnapwrq .
What’s all this about?
“ FOR LIFE AND MINISTRY MEETING OVERSEERS 1. Midweek Meeting Part on 2023 Governing Body Update #7: The video 2023 Govern- ing Body Update #7 should be played the week of November 13, 2023, in place of the 15- minute local needs part. If your congregation has a circuit assembly or convention the week of November 13, the video should be played the week of November 20 in place of the 10- minute part "An Arrangement to Comfort Those at Bethel." The timing of the Congregation Bible Study should be reduced as needed.”
even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.
they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.
i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..
The o/p is a little extreme but , yes it is far easier to be a dub these days . That’s if you are not motivated to “ seek first the Kingdom “ , you can tread water quite happily.
governing body member jeffrey winder on jw dot org:“we are not embarrassed about ‘adjustments’ that are made; nor is an apology needed for not getting it ‘exactly right’ previously.
we understand: this is how jehovah operates.”
1952 no wt 6/1/52 p.338 1965 maybe they will be resurrected .
Great info in this thread , there was some stuff I did not know.
one change that is fundamental is the identity of the faithful and discreet slave . For decades growing up and serving, we all knew that it was the remaining ones on Earth of the anointed 144,000. Then when the numbers started rising, and they suspected some “fake anointed “, they changed it to the Gov. Body themselves, only.
I mean , if they didn’t even know who they were for all that time, how can they be appointed by Christ to “care for his belongings “?
2023-10-13-announcements (reporting field service).
page 1. https://imgbox.com/96lgsfw4 .
page 2. https://imgbox.com/zynoa02m .
They based the practice of making regular reports on this Scripture, so I was informed by our old Congregation Servant when I was young ....
Ezek. 9:11
’And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me. ( KJV)
If they could find a Scripture to support it , they will no doubt find another one to support stopping it.
bribing the children to serve--by request!
request from researcher: is it true that children in the early years of the watchtower society, were bribed into the field ministry work to make a profit to have money to spend?
if this is true, would you know where i could find that information?
“ Believe it or not, even today, Jehovah's Witness children receive "bribes" to influence them to serve in the ministry work! ”
When I was a kid, or later, nobody ever offered me a bribe to give up Saturday morning to go out on the work ….. Why didn’t I get One ?
