Mind you, it seems that apostates like us are still for the chop … according to their way of thinking
“ And the apostle Paul warned that unrepentant apostates would not be resurrected.—Heb. 6:4-8; 10:29.”
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Watchtower May 2024 Who is being referred to as 'we'?
by Listener inthis is the magazine that presents some of the 'new light' from the oct. 2023 annual meeting.
it discusses some of the things they have now decided they don't know and revised some of the things they do know, or think they know.
when they start discussing some of the things they do know, most of them are still guesses and they use qualifiers.
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Watchtower May 2024 Who is being referred to as 'we'?
by Listener inthis is the magazine that presents some of the 'new light' from the oct. 2023 annual meeting.
it discusses some of the things they have now decided they don't know and revised some of the things they do know, or think they know.
when they start discussing some of the things they do know, most of them are still guesses and they use qualifiers.
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BluesBrother
Reminds me of American politician Donald Rumpsfeld when he said
“ because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know”
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What have I been doing for the last few years?
by Lee Marsh ini used to be here a lot.
every single day almost.
and then i wasn't.. well let's start with a before.
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BluesBrother
Thanks for all you have done for us Lee Marsh , aka Lady Lee . You have come through a lot and won our respect…..
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The Date for the Memorial is WRONG this year!
by Kelley959 inan interesting video was on youtube with a person claiming that the memorial date for 2024 was wrong.
so i consulted three different jewish calendars online and sure enough, he appears to be right.
i went back to 2014 and forward to 2027. they have the future dates listed.
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BluesBrother
They do not follow the modern Jewish calendar in determining the memorial.
This from aQFR in 1977
” Appropriately, the date for the Memorial celebration is arrived at as the Jews back then determined the date for the Passover. They began the month of Nisan when they could first see the new moon in the spring nearest the equinox. Passover came fourteen days later.—Isa. 66:23; Ex. 12:2, 6.a
Jehovah’s Witnesses now follow this ancient pattern in determining the Memorial date. Please note that the first thing that needs to be established is when the new moon nearest the spring equinox (about March 21) will be visible in Jerusalem. “
From what I read online the new moon UK , is March 10. So 14 days on is March 24 . A snappy phrase I remember is “ The first full moon after the Spring equinox “ . That also gives their date…
Basically they are saying, never mind the Jews , we think we are right.
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More worship of men and framing as means of conveying pedagogy
by mortimer inin the latest study article 51: enjoy a hope without disappointment, we're treated with a paragraph describing the previous president of the watchtower, frederick franz, as an example of a 'brother' who cherishes the hope of his heavenly appointment.
we are further treated with a picture of this man meant certainly to evoke a sense of reverence for him (and by extension the organizations' leadership).
the watchtower is very purposeful in how it frames any point it makes in its published work.
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BluesBrother
I don’t see it as idolising Franz although they hold him up as an example. However I find their reasoning strange. Franz was talking about his heavenly hope which is different from the hope we grew up with . They mention Abraham who , according to their teachings had an earthly hope but their is nothing to suggest he expected it in his lifetime.
We were promised that “ You will never grow old in this system “ ..... We all know how that turned out !
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Request--Sexual Sin Information Worksheet!
by Atlantis inpage 1. https://imgbox.com/54dkkeaw.
page 2. https://imgbox.com/i88bjmmp .
page 3. https://imgbox.com/dje11qjr .
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BluesBrother
“And if the legal department doesn't tell them to call police or Justice they do nothing !!!!
Isnt that what happened in a a recent USA case? They were told not to report, didn’t and got prosecuted.
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Zoom replaced with KHCONF+ app for meetings?
by joey jojo injust heard about khconf+ app replacing zoom for hybrid meetings at kngdom halls.
did a quick search here and didnt find any posts about it.
have i missed something?.
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BluesBrother
We used to use KHConf in the days before Covid . As I recall it was just audio but it could be video too. It was nowhere as good as Zoom. I have not heard of any change back to it . That would be deeply unpopular.
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2024-01-15 London Special Preaching Campaign!
by Atlantis in2024-01-15-london special preaching campaign!.
https://imgbox.com/lbnsmmyd .
atlantis!.
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BluesBrother
Reminds me of going out in the Ministry while attending a convention, back in childhood days. We would get a map and sparse directions then spend all the time trying to find it. ,
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"Beast" Memories
by NotFormer ini've been crapping on the wt a lot lately, which sometimes seems a bit unfair to me, especially since i was never in, therefore i don't really have a dog in the fight.
to provide a bit of balance, i'll reminisce about the rampant prophecy speculation going on in mainstream christianity (i refuse to use the wt's pejorative term: "christendom", especially since by definition, they're part of that classification 🙄) in the 70s and 80s.
to be fair, the churches themselves had been around long enough to realise that end times interpretations are like arseholes, everybody has one.
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BluesBrother
I can remember a thing going around, that if you ascribed a numerical value to the letters of the alphabet and took the name Kissinger and added them up you could get to the number 666. So it meant that Henry Kissinger must be the foretold beast !
Tbf, the WTS has never said anything like that.
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Murder JW Style (True Crime)
by Tahoe ina home remodeling job in england that went wildly wrong:.
a builder who bludgeoned his client to death with a hammer in a row over her new extension has been jailed for at least 15 years for murder.. peter norgrove killed sharon gordon at her home on 20 july last year.. her daughter rhian brown said norgrove acted like a "wolf in sheep's clothing" after earning her trust at the church they attended in dudley.. wolverhampton crown court heard he led the jehovah's witness service the same night he killed mrs gordon.. he repeatedly lied to her about the work he was doing, which took 15 months instead of six weeks.. .
"he didn't have the experience to be doing the work he was doing," miss brown said.. "he took full payment for the extension in advance, which we believe to be more than £30,000.".
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BluesBrother
A shocking, shocking account. Many of us have used a builder because he is a ‘brother’ and we believe he will therefore do a good honest job. My experience has not always been good. But this is just terrible.
Britain’s Daily Mail , in their typical fashion make more of it