Posts by BluesBrother

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WT June 2025: We Are Not Blind We Just Don't Know

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/7xumqjq3zfc?si=ivcg96t4dtgze4ft.

so this is from the brand new watchtower study edition of june 2025 which has just been posted on jw.org .under the title: modestly accept what you do not know, a let’s read paragraphs in question 4 &5: “read matthew 24:36. we do not know when the end of this system of things will come.

even jesus, while on earth, did not know the ‘day and hour.’ he later told the apostles that jehovah, who is the great timekeeper, keeps the timing of certain events ‘in his own jurisdiction,’ or authority.

BluesBrother

Having now read the article, we should note what they still maintain. Para. 7 :

” We do well to focus on what we do know—that the last days began in 1914.

Jehovah has provided Bible prophecies that not only pinpoint that year but also describe in detail the conditions that have prevailed since then. As a result, we are convinced that “the great day of Jehovah is near.”

So although they know not when exactly, the day is still “ near” . So the pressure to preach is the same . After all , whatever the “ day and the hour” it will be soon.

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WT June 2025: We Are Not Blind We Just Don't Know

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/7xumqjq3zfc?si=ivcg96t4dtgze4ft.

so this is from the brand new watchtower study edition of june 2025 which has just been posted on jw.org .under the title: modestly accept what you do not know, a let’s read paragraphs in question 4 &5: “read matthew 24:36. we do not know when the end of this system of things will come.

even jesus, while on earth, did not know the ‘day and hour.’ he later told the apostles that jehovah, who is the great timekeeper, keeps the timing of certain events ‘in his own jurisdiction,’ or authority.

BluesBrother

Personally, I am glad that they are now admitting that they do not know. It is better than making things up.

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Memorial Talk Training Video 2025 - Part 1

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/4upzvonzg10?si=1bdvv6qzcuj2fo6s.

oh, the joys of being one of jehovah’s witnesses, where you get to learn that heaven is a vip lounge for exactly 144,000 people—and sorry, everyone else, you're stuck in the “earth forever” section.

yep, you get to mow grass in paradise while the chosen few float around in immortal glory.

BluesBrother

You make an earthly life sound like a cheap second class salvation. Putting my Dub hat back on now, I never wanted to go to Heaven. I could not imagine it. Everything I ever wanted, aspired to , enjoyed in life is here .

No, everlasting life on Earth and even greeting my dead loved ones back again was a far more attractive deal .

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Don't you just love LITERATURE truths?

by BoogerMan in

as jw's we swallowed such concoctions for years - without a single scripture provided as proof!.

w71 12/15 p. 759 - "apparently, the apostle peter was the chairman of the governing body on the festival day of pentecost of 33 c.e., and the disciple james, the half brother of jesus christ, was the chairman at a later date, according to the account in acts of apostles.

from this, and from what historical evidence there is available, the chairmanship of the governing body rotated.".

BluesBrother

Implied here

Acts 12 .17

16 “”But Peter remained there, knocking. When they opened the door, they saw him and were astonished. 17 But he motioned to them with his hand to be silent and told them in detail how Jehovah had brought him out of the prison, and he said: “Report these things to James+ and the brothers.” With that he went out and traveled to another place“

Be that as it may…. I always regretted the ending of the congregation BoEs having a rotating chairman. It always worked well where I was , it gave bros. experience and stopped one man having “ my congregation “

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New GB member Judy Jedele critizing Job's "humility" while wearing $20,000 Rolex, gold cuff links, coloured suit. Incredible!

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

i swear, you can't make this shit up!

for years and years growing up in this cult, i had to constantly hear from my parents, from the stage, in the literature, about "keeping your eye simple", not being "materialistic", not "having a showy display of one's wealth.

" of course, this never seemed to apply to the wealthy business owning elduhzzzz who ran and lorded it out over the congregations, but i digress.

BluesBrother

I am not here to defend the GB… but how can you tell from a video whether a watch is a $20,000 Rolex or a $200 copy ?

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The org's failed last days predictions were "well meant."

by BoogerMan in

w93 6/1 p. 15 par.

6 be sound in mind - the end is close - "of course, well-meaning, faithful christians in the past have sincerely tried to predict when the end would come.".

more than 140 years of a sincere & well-meaning "it's coming soon" from the org, can be swept under the carpet - nothing to see here!.

BluesBrother

I believe it was well meant. Unlike some, I have never seen them as money grabbing scammers. But, so what, it was still wrong and we all made life decisions based upon what they said .. They claimed to be directed by Holy Spirit and they let us down..

NB. They make it sound like only a few members had forecast the dates . They should apologise on behalf of “ This Organisation “

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Further Crisis looming for JW org re Safeguarding ?

by Phizzy in

if you substitute j.w org for c of e this really hits home : (from bbc news site) :.

the church of england risks further crisis if it fails to adopt a sweeping new independent system to keep people safe, the former head of a national inquiry into child sexual abuse has said.

(prof. alexis jay).. "i think it's absolutely necessary because church safeguarding as it stands falls below the standards of secular organisations, and i do not think that can continue when it has also led to such serious weaknesses," she told the bbc..

BluesBrother

It would be good if the WT could learn from some of the measures that Jan has described above… It is a case where they need to learn from “ The World”.

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JW Vaccine mandate: The contrast between voices of reason and confusion

by ukpimo in

i was reading an intriguing post on the exjw reddit, a forum i do not with to sign up for, as i'm not interested in the internal politics of reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1hwlja8/the_governing_bodys_letter_that_shook_bethel_and/.

another post counteracted this one, driven by the "conspiracy theory" card.

BluesBrother

Covid and other vaccines saved millions of lives . Anyone who disagrees is following unproven conspiracy theories.. Believe the Science.

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U turn on LGBT

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

feb broadcast they have a drama about someone who works with a colleague who is gay.. they actually make it sound like the jws are the only ones who support him and is tolerant of him and everyone else is against him🤣.

after all these years they try gaslighting and saying we are the ones who are tolerant and everyone else is not!!!.

you couldn’t make this up.. after this monumental u turn now, what about all the gay people who were born in’s who have been shunned by their own family?.

BluesBrother

Had a look at this on the website and, yes it presents a softer view of gay people. The point is clearly made that they reject the behaviour, not the person. It presents the view of “ worldly” people as being intolerant and treating the gay man rudely. That may be the case in some places but my experience of working in a large office block was just the opposite.

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New Footage of the Kingdom Hall that Recetly Was Converted to a Mosque

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/2rovtysbopm?si=gqazzq-lowyk3js0.

with islam being one of the fastest-growing religions in the uk, there’s more need for mosques.

so when an old church goes up for sale, it’s not exactly surprising that someone might want to turn it into a mosque.

BluesBrother

Wing Commander…..

In the U.K. , your words could be called hate speech ….even liable for prosecution.