Already seen it.
I guess it is only bad when conservatives do it.
Forscher
Already seen it.
I guess it is only bad when conservatives do it.
Forscher
thanks in advance
I've made beef jerky in the past.
After doing some research I found out that round, steak or roast, is the best cut to use. It also has the benefit of being about the cheapest cut of meat as well. My dehydrator is a ronco. But any dehydrator will work. One can even use an oven if the oven can work on a very low temperature. One tip, if your dehydrator or oven doesn't already have anything to catch some of the moisture which the meat will lose put something under to catch it. Otherwise you'll have a bit of a mess. There are recipes online and other information. Enjoy your jerky!
Forscher
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/01/20/legislators-from-mexican-state-angry-at-influx-ofmexicans.php.
legislators from mexican state angry at influx of...mexicansposted by kim priestap.
published: january 20, 2008 - 1:39 pmcan you believe the nerve of these people?
Since plain English seems to be a problem,
I really could have responded much more creatively as you and Hill habitually do. But I am above that and consider it quite crude and disrespectful. Are you really of the opinion that that somehow make me less intelligent than you? Come on, since you are going down that road lets get it all out in the open.
I still fail to see the ambiguity. Let me restate it. Simply put, you and Hill respond to pretty much every thing I say with an insult regarding my intelligence. It often seems creativity and rudeness seem to be the only measure effectiveness you folks apply. You never address what I have to say on its merits. Instead, you choose the medium of the the personal insult. I, on the other hand try to keep the discussion on the merits of the argument. Is that clear enough on the first two sentences?
With that in mind my question should be obvious. You seem to believe that the true measure of one's intelligence is the creativity of one's personal put-down one's opponent. At least that is the impression I get from years of interaction with you. Is It?
Frankly I am tired of your attitude and intend to make it the real issue despite the fact it diverts the thread.
Forscher
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/01/20/legislators-from-mexican-state-angry-at-influx-ofmexicans.php.
legislators from mexican state angry at influx of...mexicansposted by kim priestap.
published: january 20, 2008 - 1:39 pmcan you believe the nerve of these people?
Forscher, U seem fairly straight forward and direct. I'd like to hear more of your opinion even if I don't agree.
Which opinion voiced here WH? I'll be happy to address it though it is getting late and I may have to break off and return later.
Huh?
I see no ambiguity in my post Beks. As tempting as it is I am not going to post the response which so handily comes to mind because I am trying to be direct and respectful.
Forscher
this according to an interview with gore vidal.
i thought this bit of his interview was a pretty decent assessment.
sammieswife.. 'the us is not a republic anymore' .
Now kurtbethel,
That is about the most realistic statement I've seen voiced on this forum by anybody in quite a while. I hope you will agree, though, that your statement doesn't really mean that honest debate on the subject is completely irrelevant. It is only through debate that valid need for changes can be realized and refined. that, hopefully, is how things come to our attention and a consensus on good policy can be determined and policies changed. That is how things are supposed to work.
Things don't work when the process is screwed with and some are not allowed input. Unfortunately there are folks determined to deny those they don't agree with their right to speak to matters. A prime example of that is the law recently adopted in Colorado making criticism of a favored left-wing view a crime.
Forscher
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/01/20/legislators-from-mexican-state-angry-at-influx-ofmexicans.php.
legislators from mexican state angry at influx of...mexicansposted by kim priestap.
published: january 20, 2008 - 1:39 pmcan you believe the nerve of these people?
Bye the way.
I do sometimes value sarcasm where it is appropriate, as in my initial post here.
The appropriate response was to show me where my sarcasm erred in substance. You never did get around to doing that. Without the sarcasm my point is that at least one neighbor, which is liberal by US standards expects us to do one thing while it does another. Now I can prove that assertion if called on to do so. You would've been within your rights to demand my proof for my charge if did didn't believe me to be correct or even provide substantive proof of your own that my assertion was incorrect. That is the way it is done by reasonable people.
But you didn't. So I did the only thing I could do under the circumstances and that was to give you a mild rebuke. I really could have responded much more creatively as you and Hill habitually do. But I am above that and consider it quite crude and disrespectful. Are you really of the opinion that that somehow make me less intelligent than you? Come on, since you are going down that road lets get it all out in the open. Or don't you have the moxie for it?
Forscher
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/01/20/legislators-from-mexican-state-angry-at-influx-ofmexicans.php.
legislators from mexican state angry at influx of...mexicansposted by kim priestap.
published: january 20, 2008 - 1:39 pmcan you believe the nerve of these people?
Ah Beks,
I only said the cheap shots made you look like an idiot. I qualified that with hte expression that you really aren't. Are you saying that I am mistaken in that belief? Besides, I am not the one who goes right into unsolicited insults. I usually respond by pointing out the obvious. If that is the pot calling the kettle black then I will just disagree with you. At least I am not lowering the argument to the gutter like my critics seem so wont to do. I am just trying to elevate the dialogue. If you don't want me rebuking your insults then please refrain from them in the first place.
I would rather be corrected on the merits
of an argument. If you can do that, then I welcome valid criticisms and respond in kind if I find flaws in such criticism. Are you up to the challenge? Or do you just want to take the lazy route of taking the arguments down to the lowest possible denominator. Only you can show what you are made of. all i can do is point it out when you go off-base.
Forscherat least acording to the email going around.. http://www.jg-teksten.nl/noblood.html.
I think there are sound medical reasons to avoid blood transfusions if at all possible.
In fact, I have a sibling who is an RN and refuses to take blood except under the most desperate of situations. Said sibling is not and never has been a Witness and doesn't like them very much at all. Including their flawed theological reasoning on the subject. That sibling's reasons are pretty much the same for why I stick by the general concept of transfusion avoidance.
Forscher
this according to an interview with gore vidal.
i thought this bit of his interview was a pretty decent assessment.
sammieswife.. 'the us is not a republic anymore' .
sadly enough I have to agree with folks on thew effect of the 13th and 14th anmendment destroying the republic.
All that followed, amending the constitution to allow income taxes, the expansion of the federal government at the expense of the states and the people by liberals during the administrations of Roosevelt and LBJ, and the expansion of the federal power under the neo-cons of the Bush administration who are following the example set by Roosevelt after all, are arguably inevitable results of those amendments. That the 14th amendment commendably forced the states to follow the Bill of Rights is more than offset by the ill effects which resulted. I guess it is just proof of the old saying that "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."
Forscher
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/01/20/legislators-from-mexican-state-angry-at-influx-ofmexicans.php.
legislators from mexican state angry at influx of...mexicansposted by kim priestap.
published: january 20, 2008 - 1:39 pmcan you believe the nerve of these people?
Geez Forcsher you are batting a thousand tonight! Take a look at how much illegal immigration has increased under Republican right wingers. Don't you get it? Big business loves illegals, and has been encouraging them. It screws ALL workers on BOTH sides. Business wins, people lose!
Except for the gratuitous insult you are correct since you state the obvious I have agreed with elsewhere on this thread. Professional politicians on both side of the aisle are ignoring the will of the people on this issue in the US and folks are getting very, very angry. Why do you think the folks informed Congress in no uncertain terms they would not accept the "immigration" package put together by Kennedy and McCain? Folks were not really against some form of amnesty for illegals. They wanted the border secured, as Kennedy and McCain promised to do in exchange for amnesty for illegals twenty years ago. They didn't keep their promise then, and the people didn't trust them to do so now. Yes, big business had a lot to do with that and so did the political left. I guess shared goals can make for strange bedfellows. Can't it?
Your comment does show that you can do so much better if you will just resist the temptation to be insulting. Cheap shots, however, make you look like an idiot. Somehow I think you are better than that!
Forscher