(romans 8:12-17) nwt.
12 so, then, brothers, we are under obligation, not to the flesh to live in accord with the flesh; 13 for if you live in accord with the flesh you are sure to die; but if you put the practices of the body to death by the spirit, you will live.
14 for all who are led by gods spirit, these are gods sons.15 for you did not receive a spirit of slavery causing fear again, but you received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which spirit we cry out: "abba, father!
Rutherford's "Jehonadab" teachings leads to a disconnect from all kinds of scriptures.
I've often wondered if he realized just how much it would. more than likely he didn't really care. Now, with a whole theology built around that disconnect, the folks at the top of the Watchtower pyramid have one big problem on their hands. We recently saw one attempt to deal with that when they backed-off on a strict standing that the door to heaven was closed to everybody after 1935.,/p> Forscher
I didn't see the question about why it looks like war is coming to Israel answered.
It was noted recently in the media that Syria is building up its forces along its border with Israel along with new arms sent to it by Iran. So it appears that Syria is gearing up for an invasion of Israel. I guess the pseudo-victory of Hezbollah last year has emboldened the Arab world towards another try.
The thought that Israel's troubles are payback for "decades of persecuting Arabs" is pure poppycock without any basis in fact.
Forscher
romans 14 shows that some jewish christians in rome abstained from meat, while others did not.
apparently there was a bit of a tussle between the two camps.
now the big question is why exactly did some feel they needed to abstain from meat?.
Oh yes
I actually got into a debate on that one elsewhere on the net. There is another facet of the issue addressed by the Bible in the gospels. Remember how the GB always states that there is no justification for breaking a "law of God," even when to do so means a person might die? Well, David broke God's law when he was fleeing from king Saul. He went to the tent of the meeting and took bread which by God's law was reserved for only the priests. No others could lawfully eat it (1 Sam. 21: 1-6). In the 12 chapter of Matthew, Jesus spoke approvingly of what David and his men had done. So that refutes the Watchtower contention that God's laws are so immutable that they cannot be transgressed, even to save a life.
By the way, don't let the foregoing give you the impression that I thing the GB is correct on the whole issue to begin with. I don't
Forscher
someone mentioned to me the other day about going door to door back when i was a jw.
"weren't you scared to do something like that, knock on a stranger's door?
actually it's been so long that i had almost forgotten.
How about looking down the barrels of a double-barreled shotgun?
It happened more than once to me.
Forscher
here's my situation...i'm doing college online because i can't very well do college the traditional way with a 2 year old.
anyway, my computer has been acting really funny and it's not reliable anymore.
my ex worked on it for almost 4 hours and the darn thing still crashes saying my "virtual" memory is too low.
Well FF,
It may be time to clean your hard drive out a bit. If you've spent a bunch of time on the net your temporary folders may be so filled with files that there is not enough room on your hard drive to expand your memory. You can usually find those folders in the Windows folder and in your program folder for your browser. If you can find the right folders and clear the deadwood out, or rid yourself of programs you no longer use, it might be enough to be able to expand your virtual memory.
The rule of thumb for how much space on your hard drive to use is about 50%. Use up much more space than that and you risk setting up a situation where your computer slows down and you don't have enough space for your virtual memory. That is why I have, and always advise others to get additional hard drives to go with their computers. It is not all that expensive to add an external hard drive and can save you lots of grief down the road. If you add one and only use your internal drive for those programs necessary to run your computer itself, you can usually avoid problems such as the one you mentioned.
As for your education, you've been given lots of good advise, including the one about making your own decision whether to continue or not. I will tell you that I regret not having gone to college back in the 1970s when I had the chance. But only you can decide what is best for you.
Forscher
seems a dear brother was under the impression i had slighted him somehow (to this day i still have no idea what i did), and moved to the city telling everyone about strange masturbatory practices i partook in.
i have no problem admitting i'm an active participant of wining, dining and self seduction, but the things he cooked up in his head were disgusting (even to a perv like me .
fbf
Sure was!
Even caught the elders of my congregation slandering me to "worldly people!" But what could I do about it when the elders were behind most of it? At the end, my fleshly sister and her kids were really spreading some really nasty stuff about my family and I. Going to the elders did no good since she was a regular pioneer and above reproach. That was one of the straws that caused my family to call it quits. I followed later when I caught an elders in one lie to me too many.
Forscher
the nt writers, when they quote the ot, mainly do so from the lxx, the septuagint.
a majority of the ot quotations in the nt are in fact from the septuagint, only a minority from hebrew.
when the nt writers do use a hebrew text it generally isnt the masoretic text, but another form of the hebrew text.
Thank you for that discussion Narkissos
The question had been going around in my head as to why none of the evidence I had available suggests authorship in languages more appropriate to location. I have had a look at a forum dedicated to the "Aramaic primacy" argument, but didn't find the arguments all that convincing. To accept that argument would require one to conclude that gentile Christians either spoke primarily or were very fluent in Aramaic in places like Corinth, Thessalonica, Phillipi, and Rome. That is a leap in logic I just can't make. Your explanation is more consistent with the demographics of the areas Paul covered as I know them.
Forscher
the nt writers, when they quote the ot, mainly do so from the lxx, the septuagint.
a majority of the ot quotations in the nt are in fact from the septuagint, only a minority from hebrew.
when the nt writers do use a hebrew text it generally isnt the masoretic text, but another form of the hebrew text.
Thank you for your reply to my post Nakissos.
I would also like to thank Leolaia for brining that series of posts to our attention. Now for both of you, is there any real basis to think that all of the NT was originally written in one language, Greek? Setting aside Jerome's contention that Matthew originally authored his book in Hebrew and then translated it into Greek, is there credible scholarship out there for authorship of various parts of the NT in both, or even more languages (perhaps the letter to the Romans in Latin, for instance)?
Forscher
i am sitting here eating my chicken scallopini that i cooked.
it is delicious.
if only you were here...... but that brings up a geat question.
Yes, I do cook as a hobby.
I specialize in Chinese cooking, though I do some other stuff as well. I love to make cracklin' cornbread and some other Southern treats.
Forscher
the nt writers, when they quote the ot, mainly do so from the lxx, the septuagint.
a majority of the ot quotations in the nt are in fact from the septuagint, only a minority from hebrew.
when the nt writers do use a hebrew text it generally isnt the masoretic text, but another form of the hebrew text.
Greetings,
I am curious on your thoughts Nakissos. But if we can assume Greek primacy for the authorship of the NT, then wouldn't it be likely that the preference shown for the LXX by the writers of the NT more likely be due to it being the only translation of the OT into Greek at the time and was likely more available to Greek speakers throughout the Diaspora? I am just curious for your thoughts on that possibility.
Forscher
