Actually you should do as IP Support suggests, but change the name of the author to some one you dont like or fred franz or ted jaracz or............
geevee
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New Pioneer School Service Book
by battman ingood morning to all,
i have a copy of the new pssb on word.doc.
has this been posted by anyone else?
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The Watchtower and Mind Control
by AliveinChrist ingreetings group .
looking back at my experience as a jw, i can now see all the things that are similar to other organizations that i thought were cultic, although i justified such activities in my own organization, as we were programmed to think by the organization.
what amazes me is that there are so many otherwise intelligent, rational, and cogent men and women in these religious organizations that can point to cultic corruption and mind and behavior control in other organizations, yet cannot see the very same exact tactics being used upon them.
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geevee
Welcome! It should be no surprise to you that JW's dont see the forest for the trees, you have been there too. How long had you been "in"? I had been almost raised in it. Had plenty of upsets over time as had my parents, but this was God's organization, the GB were spirit directed...not inspired as you mention [isn't that the same?]
But it takes quite a few kicks in the guts before you realize something is wrong. Why is it that you cant rationally sit down and discuss your research with any jw? Surely the "truth" will stand on it's own and it will always be crysrtal clear, it wont or shouldn't matter what you throw at it, truth is truth.....isn't it?
But, when and if you get a chance to talk about what you learn, they just go al starey eyed and look off into the distance and only say hmm uhhuh...hmmm uhhuh..... and then change the subject.
They need their own "crisis of conscience" before they may be ready to consider something contrary.
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We ran into a guy in the supermarket, who asked how we were and then said how are things in ********* congregation? He thought that we had moved across the border into another congo!!! We said we dont go there, we dont go. He was stunned. Couldn't figure it out and then left us.
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Big news!!! Our deliverance is at hand!!!
by Justice-One infrom time to time i humor the wife and go with her to the hall.
i was raised in "the truth" but quit believing more than ten years ago.
but this morning i was "shocked" to hear that "our deliverance is at hand!!!
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geevee
Kind of like Rutherford saying in the Harp of God....These are not man's dates but GODS!!!!! Yes the end came then too.....mustve missed it, been asleep, blinked or WHATEVER.
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no longer disfellowshipped for having a blood transfusion
by still wondering in.
can anyone help me in finding any statements made by the wtbs in any of their publications to confirm this change or even just the original news release which i understand was on their official website but i now can't find any reference to it.. is this a case of having one policy for public consumption to improve their public image but the another policy for internal consumption to give the impression that things hav'nt changed?.
it appears that the majority of jw do not know of the change in policy.
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geevee
Just like joining the army...........
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No more JW religious classes in schools!
by fair dinkim injust heard from a friend whose husband is an elder that a letter was read to the congregation from wbts stating that effective immediately "no religious instruction by jws in schools" or words to that effect.
here in australia they are called "scripture classes" and most schools conduct these as part of the school curriculum.
usually a member of the cong is assigned to conduct the lesson with jw kids in local school.
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geevee
It is a good thing that they have to stop it. I remember having to sit in the teachers staff room with my paradise book you know the nice orange one and read to ourselves while the rest of the class had their religious instruction. Who were the nerds? What did the class learn that was so shocking for us? May be how to think for themselves?
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Just returned from the 2006 (Armageddon's here) "Deliverance At Hand" DO
by apocalypse inhow much can one person gag?
it is interesting to note that clive thomas (canadian branch office) spoke during his part in such a way as to betray the fact that he was personally aware that what he was saying was false.. it's one thing when a local onion gets exuberant about parroting the gb's nonsense.
it's quite another when a bloodsucker like clive comes from the branch and does a "bait 'n switch" the way he did.
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geevee
These resolutions were and are always lame
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Just returned from the 2006 (Armageddon's here) "Deliverance At Hand" DO
by apocalypse inhow much can one person gag?
it is interesting to note that clive thomas (canadian branch office) spoke during his part in such a way as to betray the fact that he was personally aware that what he was saying was false.. it's one thing when a local onion gets exuberant about parroting the gb's nonsense.
it's quite another when a bloodsucker like clive comes from the branch and does a "bait 'n switch" the way he did.
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geevee
Stephanus....you are right on the money. Let everyone think that elders and ms's are getting hooked on porn and not what they are really hooked on to.....forums such as this and the are falling like flies. The WTS must be losing a few members and not just R&F but guys of influence and longevity. Surely the R&F must question where they are, what are they doing?
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How Jehovah's Witnesses are told to treat disfellowshipped Relatives.
by jwfacts inin another thread it was mentioned the witnesses do not shun disfellowshipped relatives, so i thought i would copy a few articles that show the watchtower says quite definitely that they are to almost totally shun relatives, along with some examples that i know personally.
i personally know many that have not been contacted by their parents for years;my cousin was my best friend, and for a year before my disfellowshipping week after week i spent hours with her and her child, who spent 4 months of his first year in hospital.
on the day of my disfellowshipping i was informed that i am no longer welcome there, and i have not seen my second cousin for 6 months now.
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Question Re: Jwfacts: In catching up with ex JWs I am learning that a number of young couples commit fornication prior to their wedding and never confess, including brothers in positions of authority. Some of these are never found out, and to this day some still have positions of authority.
Isn't there a loophole for position people? If their sin was unknown and a whaile ago, they could confess it and NOT lose status?
BTW: We had a couple here, raised their family, 2 sons and a daughter. The daughter grew up, married but later was DF'ed. The Father, our PO for many years had a certain amount of contact with her and her new husband. The contact was questioned a few times, but he always controlled the situation, and after a while, it was left alone. One of his daughter-in-laws was not happy about it and either was her father a top gun elder but no authority as he lived elsewhere. When there was an opportunity to take him down for it, she had "evidence" she got cold, and left a couple of elders out in the cold.
Jump forward a few years.
The wife/mother dies. The daughter-in-laws father had moved here and was appointed and elder, as well as we had a big shot elder who was on the local RBC and thought nothing of cutting the guts out of other elders move in as well as the CO visiting. The question arose about the funeral and the attendance of the df daughter and the cup of tea ofter the service. The big shots all said that this would be "eating with her"!!!!!
Dont worry that her mother has died....just any elder or ms that would be in attendance would NOT be attending the afternoon tea final!
Then they even moved around the crowd at the funeral and reminded the whole servant body to stay away from the daughter and not attend the afternoon tea.
Man it really sucked. Even though I was an elder at the time, you were absolutely caught by the balls. These guys patrolled all the time, it was absolutley sickening. Dont reach out to this poor woman, dont show her any concern.
I couldn't be like that, so I made a bee line, shook her hand, told her that I was sorry for her loss, but couldn't give her a hug, who would be watching? Everyone!! She held my hand and you could tell she didn't want to let go. My wife also extended her sympathy.
What did her husband think?
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Update! Attending Sunday Meeting and Loving it!
by drew sagan inyep that's right folks, yours truely has actually been attending the sunday meeting.
many will ask, why in the hell would you ever do that?
well, developments going on in my world have led me to this decision.
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geevee
Drew....you rock!!!
Having taken the Wt study, if I had someone who made the "way out" comments, I would see their hand up, look around, wait.......look some more then look at my page, then with my head down, I would then call on the reader to read the next paragraph, instead of asking Bro Wayoutthere his answer. I concur with a previous comment, about it being your last answer. Let's hope not.
I did give a talk about bible chronology from the SI book, but interspersed it with the information from Gentile Times Reconsidered....I loved it, and no one seemed to pick up on my opposing information.
But all the best to you. And it is their problem, not yours.