The Black Panthers are offering up a $1,000,000.00 reward for the capture of George Zimmerman.
Go to youtube and watch it.
sammielee24
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If you were on the Zimmerman jury, how would you vote? 2nd degree murder, manslaughter or innocent?
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I get so tired of people complaining about everything President Obama says or does
by booker-t infor the past 4 1/2 years i have heard everything said about president obama and now the lastest "obama being the anti-christ" just have me laughing my head off.
where do people get nonsense like this?
do they just sit around the kitchen table and say "what are we going to say next about obama and michelle?
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I'm pretty well done with all these threads.
There is no allowance for discussion. They have just evolved into a mess of inference and accusations and become close to being slanderous and definitely insulting.
I've tried as best I can to stick to facts in what was made into a world wide public trial - I gave my perspective based on the facts and testimony and evidence presented at that trial. I watched it all. Hours of testimony. I have not tried to insult people - might have failed from time to time but I have come to the conclusion that racial discord is a fact of American society that the majority of people have no will or desire to change. To do so it would mean really looking at the issue and not just from one side but from many sides. It won't happen.
In this specific case I tried to separate the race issue from the gun issue and try to figure out this case from the legal perspective of the evidence provided for us to see. I always tried to get people to separate the two because if you can't do that, if you keep inserting the motive of race as the basis for a crime, then you aren't focusing on the justice and the law but on your own assumption that all crimes must be race based. That just flies back to not wanting to really discuss racial discord on it's own and change the laws in a way that eliminates any inequalities that might be there.
I don't see this ever happening in the USA.
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If you were on the Zimmerman jury, how would you vote? 2nd degree murder, manslaughter or innocent?
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@Sammieswife: so defensive.
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No...so tired.. sammieswife
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I get so tired of people complaining about everything President Obama says or does
by booker-t infor the past 4 1/2 years i have heard everything said about president obama and now the lastest "obama being the anti-christ" just have me laughing my head off.
where do people get nonsense like this?
do they just sit around the kitchen table and say "what are we going to say next about obama and michelle?
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sos...I'm not sure what the hell your issue is.
I think I made that clear - I think Obama made a choice to put himself in the issue and YES I think that's slimy. I would think the same thing of anyone doing it.
So now you get pissed that I make an opinion after YOU called me aliar - and now you use the words bigot when responding?
I just can't be bothered with dealing with your prejudice or your racism or your hate. I don't get it. You attack and continue to attack and don't stop. I say I don't know who Booker anything is and you call me a liar? Get a grip. You need to re-evaluate yourself - I don't carry around the baggage that you appear to be carrying.
In case you aren't able to decipher - I didn't say Obama wasn't entitled to how he FELT - I said he had no right to inject himself into a criminal case that was racially charged WITH that comment. I could care less what he feels in private and talks about with his wife about the case - this is the leader of 320 million people. He is supposed to lead - not sway the public into rioting or sway them into voting by using the death of a kid. And yes, I am using the 'kid' reference here because it's always used - I never said he was 6'5" or smashing cars. YOUR words. I always said - he attacked Zimmerman and beat the crap out of him. If you have a problem with that evidence and have other FACTS to present - I suggest you call the Florida Law Department because those were the FACTS that were produced at the trial.
Get a grip..take a nap...go have some tea...but stop with the attacks.. sammieswife
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I get so tired of people complaining about everything President Obama says or does
by booker-t infor the past 4 1/2 years i have heard everything said about president obama and now the lastest "obama being the anti-christ" just have me laughing my head off.
where do people get nonsense like this?
do they just sit around the kitchen table and say "what are we going to say next about obama and michelle?
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Lisa - I agree, the rabid hatred of a President for his color is insane and I don't get it because I don't think like that. I could care less if he was green and a foot high as long as he worked for the people and did his job.
I will also point out however, that I feel the same way about those who vote or believe the President can't do anything wrong because of his color and those extremists who also insist that unless you vote by color, you are a traitor to the cause.
There are many a talk show host out there, black and white, who manipulate and push their own agenda including race, on to their listeners and incite a form of extremism that is acceptable.
For most people its a matter of turning off or tuning out - but for a great many the media is their source of what is right and wrong and so they base argument, opinion or even votes on that media without ever fully investigating for themselves.
Heaven knows we have seen this in the discussion around the facts of the Zimmerman case vs the propaganda. You say a fact - you get an opinion presented as a fact. You present the same fact and are told to back your facts up and get another opinion with no facts. Your facts are wrong - their opinion is right. That behavior can be applied to the way people vote as well. sammieswife
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I get so tired of people complaining about everything President Obama says or does
by booker-t infor the past 4 1/2 years i have heard everything said about president obama and now the lastest "obama being the anti-christ" just have me laughing my head off.
where do people get nonsense like this?
do they just sit around the kitchen table and say "what are we going to say next about obama and michelle?
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soso...Don't know who those bookers are - I have to look them up. Don't know any wrestlers either except Hulk Hogan and thats because he had a TV show. I don't care if anyone complains about or praises Obama - he isn't perfect - and people are going to have an opinion based on what he does and that's their right. As for him saying something about Trayvon Martin 'coulda been his son'....I think it was inappropriate, slimy, callous and should not have been done because he injected him squarely into a race baiting agenda promoted by others being paid by the taxpaying public. I don't care who does it - using a dead kid as a way to get more votes is slimy. So, no - I wouldn't support what he said because as far as I'm concerned it speaks volumes to the lack of respect for not only the law that he and his government are supposed to uphold, but diminishes his personal integrity as a leader.
I don't have a problem with anyone praying for the Martin family nor if they choose to pray for the Zimmerman family. Thats their personal choice and belief system. Their right.
A President in these situations understands full well the magnitude of every comment he gives - it was slimy. sammieswife
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If you were on the Zimmerman jury, how would you vote? 2nd degree murder, manslaughter or innocent?
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@Sammieswife: After looking up the sources of your multiple uncredited quotations, it appears that www.breitbart.com is your 'news' and information channel of choice.
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Got a problem Val? Keep trying to paint me as something you want to peg me by. It doesn't work. You whined about what I posted, I went and found you some data to support what I was saying. I could have spent another two hours spoon feeding you the same information from other sites, but I can't quite frankly be bothered.
I'm not a conservative. Nor a liberal. I am independent and align with no party so I read everything and don't censor myself from anything.
I will tell you what I told someone else on here. If you choose to complain about one news source because it doesn't fit your own personal ideal then you choose to live within a narrow parameter. The same news is often and usually picked up by a lot of the mainstream news sooner or later and you know why? Because there is no real or different news. It's just about opinion. So if you want a liberal slant then choose a liberal slant. If you want conservative then choose conservative. Their news is no different - they just take a piece, spin it your way and there you have it - your chosen source for all that is going on in the world. Right or wrong, doesn't matter.
So again you tried to paint me or infer that I was a racist by another comment. That didn't work.
Now you can try and tell me that I'm a conservative or ill informed or mis informed or stupid or ...gee, I'm not even sure at this point.
I'm not really sure what your real issue is. There is a saying - people need only own their own themselves. They have no obligation to 'own' the negativity, hatred, anger or any other behavior or emotion that people try and push on them. I'm good where I'm at no matter how people try to malign or infer otherwise. sammieswife
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I get so tired of people complaining about everything President Obama says or does
by booker-t infor the past 4 1/2 years i have heard everything said about president obama and now the lastest "obama being the anti-christ" just have me laughing my head off.
where do people get nonsense like this?
do they just sit around the kitchen table and say "what are we going to say next about obama and michelle?
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sammielee24
I never thought of all those things soso.....but thanks for pointing them out - I don't agree with your comment because once again you defer to the reason for anyone commenting and having a different opinion is because of race - you might be watching too much of Al Sharpton but hey, you are entitled to your opinion. sammieswife
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I get so tired of people complaining about everything President Obama says or does
by booker-t infor the past 4 1/2 years i have heard everything said about president obama and now the lastest "obama being the anti-christ" just have me laughing my head off.
where do people get nonsense like this?
do they just sit around the kitchen table and say "what are we going to say next about obama and michelle?
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sammielee24
If his race really had nothing to do with it, why are you so glad we finally have a BLACK president? Why does it matter what his color is and why are you glad he's a 'black' president?
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On point.
I thought he was a better choice than anyone else. I was one of those innocent people who really believed that others voted for him because of what he stood for or said he stood for - not because he was black.
I got a rude awakening during his 2nd run up when I heard black talk show hosts telling their listeners they HAD to vote Obama BECAUSE he was black. Not because of the issues or what he was going to do or should do - but because of his color.
He hasn't been all bad - I think he has tried to do some things and been hamstrung - but I've come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter who you vote in - the outcome is already determined on many fronts because money still buys the leadership.
He really lost me however, on the issue of Trayvon Martin. It was pretty clear that his 'my son' speech was a simple political manuever - to get the black vote. It worked. When people harp on what Zimmerman might do to earn a buck to survive after this fiasco of a trial, I think it's far less slimy and much less of an insult than a President that uses a dead child to bolster his base.
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I am not sure if any realizes it but most people I know were up in arms with the fact that a minor was killed with no eye-witness and the person who shot him was released a few minutes later.
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Read up on some facts.
He wasn't released a few minutes later. He was taken into custody and held for hours during the preliminary investigation. That happens as part of procedure if they determine there is no threat or reason to keep the person at that point.
You do realize don't you that just prior to this media spun event - this NAACP propagandized party - that a black man was in the exact same position as Zimmerman was. He shot a white guy in self defense. Gues what? He didn't get held either. He was let go until the full investigation was done. It took from what I recall about two months and then a decision was made based on the investigation and evidence. So by perpetuating this myth that somehow in this case there was some privilege given to Zimmerman is ridiculous. Did you see any white hispanics rioting? Did you see any WAACP come riding to the rescue and demand justice? No. In this specific case with Zimmerman you can't know the outcome because the investigation was never allowed to take place.
Like I said - if this was about police and their treatement of those in the black community, then ask yourself why the NAACP and all those race baiters didn't go after them. No. Instead they ignored the investigation that was still in process and pulled evidence out, pushed law enforcement out of the way and had a sit down in the Mayors office with twenty people in order to create a case for their own civil rights agenda. You think doing that represents any sense of legality or fairness toward a man who they then charged with murder? I don't. It's prejudicial. It's tampering.
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