just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.
you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.
it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.
Is this national healthcare plan going to be forced on those who don't want it, even if they don't have healthcare insurance?
Nothing is forced on you - as a wage earner you pay a set amount of taxes toward healthcare for all - if you choose not to use it for a yearly physical, eye exam, blood test - that would be totally up to you, but in a national health care system everybody pays for everyone to use. swife.
just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.
you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.
it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.
paragraphs, please!
sixofnine - my apologies...swife.
just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.
you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.
it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.
I have to question how much would be saved by the USA
Hi LT....I am taking my information from all the reports and stats that have been made over a lot of years. What happens in the USA is that abt 38% of all the costs are administrative and thats in part due to the bonuses etc of the CEO's, as well as the paperwork. In a NHS, you have limited forms and administration is streamlined so from that perspective alone, the costs could be reduced by half. Did you know that the top 3% or so of the wealthy have NO insurance? That's because from the standpoint of investment, it's a poor return for them. They can plunk that $20,000 a year into a market fund and increase the value of that dollar. They have the money to handle any cost and there are a gazillion doctors that they will pay 20x any other doctor to give them the care they want, when they want it. The poor cannot afford it - and since over half of those lower middle income people also can't afford it - it becomes a matter of class. There are numerous articles written on class and health care (one is in the NY Times) and it becomes obvious after a while just how sick it all is. The way I look at it is this - I'm driving down the highway and I look to my left. There I see 3 kids in the back of a 1995 Dodge van..mom and dad in the front. Then I look to my right. There I see 3 kids in the back of a 2006 Cadillac SUV..mom and dad in the front. They disappear ahead of me. Some time later I turn a bend in the road and theres been a massive accident - the 2 vehicles have collided. IMHO - I stop and help all the people there in any way I can regardless of who they are, where they came from, what kind of house they live in, how much money they have. The ambulance comes and rushes them to the same hospital and they work to save the lives of everyone involved equally. That to me is what National Healthcare is - equal healthcare for all regardless of income, gender, social status or employment - a life is a life. Without national healthcare, a life becomes based only on the value of the dollar. That accident would have resulted in those people being serviced by the dollar value of their health insurance and that includes speed, quality of care and results. Without national healthcare, your life becomes automatically worth less without insurance and care. Your childrens lives, your parents - they are all less than those making more money who can afford health care insurance and services - that is a fact. It has become a class warfare system and game of roulette..sammieswife.
just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.
you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.
it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.
I think we should have affodable pet insurance also! Have you been to the vet lately
Swalker - I know there is pet insurance but I've never checked it out. I will tell you this - I always had my dogs vaccinated and groomed and I had one dog that had a recurring ear infection. The cost to get that treated was phenomenal..the real cruncher though was the cost of treating her diabetes. For some people it gets even more difficult when they are faced with the cost of their sick pet and they don't have the money. sammieswife.
just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.
you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.
it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.
so that only those who wanted to pay for other people's healthcare would have to?
Well, I guess this would work but could we do the same with education? No kids? No taxes into the education system. How about property taxes? Don't own a home then you shouldn't pay taxes even if those are bumped into your rent. How about taxes toward the military? If you don't support it then why should you have to pay?..We take care of each other in many ways in what we consider a 'civilized' society - we pay taxes at all levels to ensure we have roads, malls, schools etc - why is health care so different? I keeping hearing that people would be lazy and why should I have to pay for that bum who can't afford his own? The amount already paid by everyone's tax dollar NOW is higher than it would be with NHC. Why do people think that anyone without insurance is lazy or somehow undeserving? 53% of people earning (by the way for anyone that can't figure that out - earning = working ie earning a living) between $20,000 -$38,00 DO NOT have insurance - that's over half! It isn't a choice between that one Big Mac a month or that KFC meal deal for $20.00 bucks a month - it's the difference between your electric, your gas, your rent, your medicine, your food, your kids shoes. sammieswife.
just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.
you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.
it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.
On an added note and my own personal observation which appalls most average people even more - when there is a terrorist attack as happened in England last year, Spain last year etc, and people were injured severely, taken to hospitals, worked on and their lives saved and then facing a few years of rehab and drugs etc - well all of those injured in Spain and England, got treatment to save your life plain and simple. Didn't matter if the guy on that bus next to you was a CEO making a million a year and you were scuffling along trying to do your best on $20,000 - you are brought to the nearest hospital and given equal care and treatment.
When the attacks happened on 9/11 what do you think happens to those in a pay for service health care society? Well, if you can walk (think really badly injured but your legs are still attached), you would have been brought to hospital, looked at and at the end of your stay and rehab, you would if you didn't have the best in health insurance, receive huge bills you would now struggle to pay. So in essence, in a world fearful of terrorist attacks, just remember that for those who are victims in the USA - do not have equal and national care.
sammieswife.
just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.
you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.
it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.
Asked why such an inefficient and wasteful health care system persists, Dr. Tranquada indicated that insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies profit from the waste, which they protect and defend. When the Clinton administration proposed moderate health care reform back in 1994, the insurance industry raised $30 million to oppose it. They were joined by the American Hospital Association, which raised $20 million, and by pharmaceutical companies, which raised comparable sums. Their money bought deceptive media advertising that mislead and confused the American public.
Dr. Tranquada endorsed SB 840, which is now under legislative consideration in Sacramento. If passed, the bill, sponsored by State Senator Sheila Kuehl, would save California $8 billion a year in health care costs while permitting the State of California to extend quality health care to all Californians.
just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.
you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.
it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.
set a single vendor that dictates that after 8 years of med school and another 4 finishing residency, a DR. makes no more than say, $60,000. Yea right. How many student loans you gonna pay off with that
I'm not really sure where this stuff comes from at times.....but in all the research thats out there this is not true. If that were a fact then I'd guess you wouldn't have doctors working in any country. Here's the reality - companies are moving out of the USA - outsourcing is a major problem and why? Soaring health insurance costs..People are also running OUT of the USA for care and why??? Soaring health care costs. Why do millions of USA citizens have to buy their medicines from Canada?? Soaring health care costs...
just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.
you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.
it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.
Hey Rabbit..there are a number of lists - type in your state and national health care and it should bring up a list of who's for it..I'm not on my own comp or I'd pull up a list for you - but try that out. I just watched CSPAN yesterday and what the current government is doing about and that answer is - nothing. They are more concerned with the IT systems and standards at this point and not at one time did they address the lack of insurance and health care for the millions out there.....sammieswife
has anyone read this guys books or heard his radio interview?
he was a devout muslim and a member of the plo but has removed himself from all of that.
he gave a lot of very interesting insight into the thinking and growth of the islamic fundamentalist communities.
Let me know what you think about his book after you read it. I intend doing that as well but I have a few ahead of his - he is very articulate and I appreciate hearing facts from the inside out. I don't care if he switched religions because to me the facts of how quickly the mindset is spreading for terrorism is what I'm interested in. It has always been said that you will never defeat your enemy unless you are willing to think and act like them, sounds appropriate, after I heard what he had to say. His warnings to people around the world and Americans in particular seem to go unheard...sammieswife.
