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    National Healthcare for the USA

    by sammielee24 in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.

    you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.

    it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.

    1. freydi
    2. kurtbethel
    3. freydi
  • sammielee24
    sammielee24
    Those figures might be great in an ideal world, but reality is such that it's a lot more wasteful

    LT - I do agree with you that reality is a little harsher than theory but I believe the figures include all of the time, money and duplication spent in trying to get payments.

    I worked for non profit in the finance department of Comm & Soc Services for a long, long time and I understand the budgeting and application process, I've seen the abuses and the duplication but not always from the bottom - from the top as well. There are whole industries here that are created by people 'collecting' money from other people for their medical care. There are something like 1600 various providers with varying forms, many doctors offices have 3 or 4 secretaries to handle just the paperwork, you have collection agencies that handle the collections of delinquent accounts, you have the bankruptcy courts, you have credit card companies, hospitals have to spend more time on forms and billing and ensuring their costs are high enough to show a profit - all of these things take time and duplication. I think that's where the figure comes from. Multiply this fact by thousands upon thousands and you can see the inefficiencies. I was appalled the first time I saw someone that had to pull out a credit card to pay for some much needed treatment because they didn't have the money in the bank to pay for the service. This just put them further back in the hole.

    No solution is perfect. We will all have differing opinions and while I have no problem recognizing that a small percentage of any national system will overuse or abuse the what is offered, I believe that is offset by the millions more who won't. I see every child as being equal and deserving of the same medical care regardless of wether their parents live in a million dollar home or a trailer park. Doctors in report after report have stated that the poor will not receive the same care or the same tests - I won't rehash it all, but I don't see national healthcare in some form or other as being an option any longer. Like any office, you can walk in and see waste, make the proposal to streamline the office and either act on it or hire more people and pay them to contribute more to the wasteful processes you already have in place and then in turn increase your charges to your client to pay for the additional help. sammieswife.

  • sammielee24
    348

    National Healthcare for the USA

    by sammielee24 in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.

    you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.

    it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.

    1. freydi
    2. kurtbethel
    3. freydi
  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    I would also like to know what everyone thinks about our prison population and healthcare? We have approximately 2 million people incarcerated. Do you think they have healthcare while in prison? Do you think they have a right to healthcare while in prison?

    If you believe they have a right to healthcare, if for no other reason than the fact they are incarcerated - then that doesn't make sense when you argue that health care is not a right of citizens of the USA. If you don't believe they should receive healthcare, then how responsible are we by spreading TB, HIV, Hep C, sexual diseases etc inside prison and then releasing those infected people to the outside population? You can't bill a prisoner for his healthcare based on future earnings because stats indicate that most don't or can't get jobs after release or they get the lowest paying jobs or they end up back inside.

    <<<<<<According to the International Centre for Prison Studies at King's College London, the U.S. currently has the largest documented prison population in the world, both in absolute and proportional terms. We've got roughly 2.03 million people behind bars, or 701 per 100,000 population. China has the second-largest number of prisoners (1.51 million, for a rate of 117 per 100,000), and Russia has the second-highest rate (606 per 100,000, for a total of 865,000). Russia had the highest rate for years, but has released hundreds of thousands of prisoners since 1998; meanwhile the U.S. prison population has grown by even more. Rounding out the top ten, with rates from 554 to 437, are Belarus, Bermuda (UK), Kazakhstan, the Virgin Islands (U.S.), the Cayman Islands (UK), Turkmenistan, Belize, and Suriname, which you'll have to agree puts America in interesting company. South Africa, a longtime star performer on the list, has dropped to 15th place (402) since the dismantling of apartheid.

    The average age of the prison population is rising, and as our old lifers age, they, like everyone else, have increased health care costs.>>>>>

  • sammielee24
    348

    National Healthcare for the USA

    by sammielee24 in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.

    you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.

    it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.

    1. freydi
    2. kurtbethel
    3. freydi
  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    Thankyou Swalker for getting the point I was trying to make. I didn't think it was that hard to determine but I suppose it was - my fault for not spelling it out. The death of the gentelman in my article was directly related to 9/11 and yes, his care was paid for. The issue the system now has, is that they are now aware of the possibility of hundreds or thousands more that may also be directly affected but whose symptoms won't show up for years. Some cancers may take 15 years to show up. My point was to argue against the 'fear mongering' that I was accused of creating when I used terrorism as a real issue in its relation to healthcare. If terrorism is a real issue - then so is the aftercare needed. swife.

  • sammielee24
    348

    National Healthcare for the USA

    by sammielee24 in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.

    you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.

    it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.

    1. freydi
    2. kurtbethel
    3. freydi
  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    Determine an appropriate level of, and provide support

    during the transition for training and job placement for persons

    who are displaced from employment as a result of the initiation

    of the new California Health Insurance System.

    I guess that's where all that planning and hard work come into play - kind of like the auto workers who dang their silly hides - they really thought they would never be without a job..or how about those Exon kids...lost their shirts...I guess that's what streamlining and realigning of services does...it creates redundancies...but then again, it opens up a few more doors for a few more people..swife

  • sammielee24
    348

    National Healthcare for the USA

    by sammielee24 in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.

    you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.

    it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.

    1. freydi
    2. kurtbethel
    3. freydi
  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    Just a Canadian vs USA comparison by one of the many who used both systems -

    Two women, two cancers, two health-care systems

    Tom O'Brien

    Thursday, December 29, 2005

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    After a long time away, you see with new eyes.

    I moved back to the United States with my Canadian wife and two small boys after living 15 years in Toronto and Ottawa. U.S. health care now looks both expensive and scary, leading me to conclude that we'd do better with an entirely different system.

    Nowhere has this been put in sharper relief than in the story of two colleagues. Struck in March with cancer, an American colleague worried about death, insurance loss and bankruptcy. In contrast, a Canadian colleague and cancer victim had only her disease to fight.

    Susan was on sick leave when I came to work at my new job in August. She was middle-aged and single with a grown family and well liked in my office. She was undergoing chemotherapy to treat breast cancer and not able to work. Our employer supported her beyond the normal period of sick days and vacation.

    But the scary question for anyone but the rich hit with a catastrophic illness in the U.S. health-care system is: How long will an employer's support go on if the battle goes far beyond the time allotted for sickness and vacation? Susan worried about the loss of health-care coverage and what ensues -- second-rate care, bankruptcy, choosing between timely drug therapies and even modest necessities. She died this month before those fears were realized. But had she lived, she and her family would have confronted the excruciating battle survivors have to fight with insurance companies, employers and health-care providers over cost, length and quality of treatment.

    In contrast, my former colleague Kathleen back in Canada was gripped by uterine cancer, which had spread to her intestines. While she was locked in a life-and-death battle for 18 months, she didn't have to worry about losing her health care and choosing which bills to pay. Canadian Medicare covers everyone for everything in hospitals and doctors' offices, including some elective procedures. This means no health care-caused bankruptcies. No fights with insurers. No insurance-driven financial worries. Kathleen could save her energy for battling her cancer instead. She did recover, and while her recovery was not necessarily the direct result of differences in care systems, there is no question that she would have suffered more with the burden of financial worries related to her health-care needs.

    I hear stories here about Canadians lining up for basic medical care. But despite plenty of doctor appointments, occasionally bringing my children to the ER, and having had a heart procedure myself, I didn't witness any delays for necessary (let alone emergency) care. In survey after survey, Canadians support public, nonprofit health care by a wide margin.

    And why not? Compared to the United States, Canada has much lower infant-mortality rates and a longer life expectancy, according to data from the World Health Organization. Canadian women get just as many mammograms, for example, as do American women. This is achieved despite spending far less per person on health care -- 10 percent of per capita GDP in Canada goes to health care versus 15-plus percent in the United States, according to WHO research.

    After 40 years of private health care in America and 15 years of Canada's Medicare, I'll take the latter. But of course, I can't; it's not available here. I love my country but not the private health-care system that abandons many people and worries even more.

    Few Americans know that every other industrial country in the world has a health-care system more or less like Canada's. I think even fewer realize that we do, too -- it's called (U.S.) Medicare. The system that boosted the health of Americans 65 and older is similar to Canada's system for everyone. They're both "public, not-for-profit, single-payer" systems with low overhead costs. So why not extend Medicare to every American?

    Our seniors like it. Sure, it will raise the cost of this government program by billions of dollars, according to even the most conservative estimates. But it will save money for both individuals and employers who now purchase private health insurance. After all, it's not how much of your income you pay, it's how much you keep. You'll keep more under Medicare-for-all, and every child, woman and man would get the timely health care they need.

    Give people the opportunity to face and fight their illnesses, not their insurance companies.

  • sammielee24
    348

    National Healthcare for the USA

    by sammielee24 in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.

    you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.

    it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.

    1. freydi
    2. kurtbethel
    3. freydi
  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    LDH - as per your report the 9/11 plan was closed down in 2004 after having completed all its work...so, now that they believe people are dying and will die still from the fall out, but they don't know how many or who really, do we reopen the plan? The money is gone -now what? Could be thousands that need care...are you willing to determine who those people are and pay for them? Maybe those people don't qualify now or are still traumatized or dislocated and can't afford insurance. So - as terrorist victims..what do we do with them now?

    More 9/11 Health Care Help Urged After Policeman's Autopsy

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    Article Date: 13 Apr 2006 - 6:00am (PDT)
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    After a new autopsy linked James Zadroga's death in January this year to his exposure to 9/11 toxins, lawmakers have asked for more to be done for for the health of workers who were at ‘ground zero' on September 11.
    (Ground Zero = The area where the Twin Towers fell down in New York. Ground Zero is a term for the epicentre of a disaster - the center of the disaster area)

    According to a coroner's report released on Tuesday, the policeman, James Zadroga, developed a respiratory disease. This disease was directly related to the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center (twin towers) on September 11, 2001. Mr. Zadroga died on January 5, 2006. This is the first autopsy to directly link a person's death with working at ground zero.

    Mr. Zadroga died of respiratory failure. He had inflammation in his lung tissue which was the result of ‘a history of exposure to toxic fumes and dust'.

    Very soon after the 9/11 terrorist attack (a few weeks), Zadroga started having respiratory problems. His health gradually got worse from that point on.

    The collapse of the Twin Towers created a massive dust cloud which was laden with asbestos. Human exposure to asbestos (in the air) is linked to a much higher risk of developing cancer, especially lung cancer, as well as other serious respiratory diseases.

    As time passes by and more people become ill and die, it is going to be extremely difficult to know which people became sick as a result of being at ground zero on that date and days after it, and which people would have become sick anyway. The whole process will take many years.
    The number of lawmakers demanding more help is set to grow after this autopsy. Rep. Carolyn Maloney( D-Manhattan), Rep.Vito Fossella, (R-Staten Island), and Rep.Christopher Shays, (R-Conn.) say more screening and help should be done of ground zero workers.

    Senator Hillary Clinton has been asking for more federal funding for screening and treatment programs. Many wonder how it is possible that after over four years there is still not a thorough plan for ground zero workers who are ill or suffering as a consequence of being there.

    There may be dozens of people who died because of exposure to the toxic cloud.

  • sammielee24
    348

    National Healthcare for the USA

    by sammielee24 in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    just an fyi for anyone interested - there is a major drive on to push the bill forward for national healthcare in the usa.

    you can sign the petition by going to http://www.onecarenow.org/.. it has gone through one part of the process last year and now the push is on to get it moved to the next level - it is backed by over 400 groups including the uaw i believe.

    it is no longer if it happens, it is only a matter of time as to when it happens.

    1. freydi
    2. kurtbethel
    3. freydi
  • sammielee24
    sammielee24
    Stop trying to scare people by bringing terrorism into the picture.

    I'm not. If a bomb explodes over here I don't for one minute believe every person injured in any way will be taken care of. 9/11 was the first major attack here so everyone dove into the fray and donated - all of us did - but I don't think for one minute that would happen again. The point is - we have people securing this country with their lives who have no health insurance and in the event of an attack in any which way, I do not believe that the 'good' of all the people will rise up and keep covering the costs for all of those who need it. If that were the case and it were so simple you wouldn't have the fight for national health care. My comparison was to simply show that when the attacks occur in any other country, people are taken care of. There is no thought of anything but their welfare. Sorry, but hear I see a different song being sung here. swife.