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  The two incidents you mention did not result in any criminal convictions at all. The judge heard and disregarded all that as non relevant.

  The assault on a 'cop' ...was in fact heard at trial. There were undercover cops, not wearing badges, who were in a bar to get underage drinkers. Something about the way they operate undercover had to do with the operations of creating a scuffle in order to provoke and remove - however it was explained, the judge understood. Zimmerman went to the defense of his friend who he thought was being roughed up by some guy in a bar - he never knew it was a cop and the assault was in fact a 'shove' - not a punch or attack. That's why he got a diversion and no other charges were ever filed.

  As to the second - there were allegations but they both made the allegations against one another - nothing went to court, nothing was proved on either side and no conviction for any violence, no evidence apparently of any violence on either side. They went their separate ways and that was it.

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  In 2005, Zimmerman was charged with assaulting a police officer and resisting arrest, after shoving an officer while a friend of Zimmerman’s was being questioned about underage drinking. The charges were reduced, then dropped when Zimmerman entered a pre-trial diversion program. Also in 2005, Zimmerman’s ex-fiance filed a restraining order against him, alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman requested a reciprocal restraining order. Both orders were granted. The incidents were raised by prosecutors at Zimmerman’s initial bond hearing. The judge described the incidents as “run of the mill” and “somewhat mild” and rejected the prosecution’s claim that the incidents demonstrated that Zimmerman was violent or a threat to the community.
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  According to what was frozen and captured on his facebook page and/or cell phone discussions, he mentions LEAN. A user for a while it seems as well as marijuana. sammieswife

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  Doctor explains sizzurp's powerful high -- and deadly side effects

  March 18, 2013 | Multiplatinum rapper Lil Wayne was hospitalized on Friday night, March… (Mark J. Terrill / Invision/Associated…)

  Sizzurp, purple drank, lean -- that cough-syrup-laced concoction of many names -- has been gaining popularity in hip hop culture and notoriety as more celebrities fall prey to its effects. Rapper Lil Wayne was hospitalized at Cedars-Sinai last week, reportedly linked to use of the prescription-strength medication.

  The codeine in the medicine serves as a pain reliever and also suppresses coughing, said Dr. George Fallieras, an emergency room physician and hospitalist at Good Samaritan Hospital. A second drug in the cough syrup, known as promethazine, is used as an antihistamine and commonly used to treat motion sickness and nausea. It’s also a bit of a sedative -- employed partly to keep people from drinking too much of the stuff.

  "This is a very common cough syrup that, when taken in appropriately prescribed quantities, is quite safe," Fallieras said.

  But promethazine is a depressant of the central nervous system, Fallieras said. More importantly, codeine is a respiratory depressant, he added -- and when taken in very large amounts, it can cause people to stop breathing.

  "A lot of times these guys are not just drinking the purple drink, they’re also drinking alcohol," Fallieras said. “And potentially in combination with alcohol and other drugs -- all of these together can be a lethal cocktail."

  Lil Wayne reportedly suffered seizures as well, but Fallieras said that high doses of the drink would probably precipitate seizures only in patients who were already prone to them.

  The so-called purple drank gains its name from the dyes in the cough syrup, which is mixed with a soft drink and perhaps a sugary candy for sweetness. It has become very popular, spreading through rap lyrics, and across state lines through Texas and Louisiana (where Lil Wayne hails from).

  But codeine is an opiate – the same family of drugs as heroin and morphine -- and can be very addictive in high doses, Fallieras said. And promethazine has at least anecdotally been noted to intensify the euphoric effects of codeine in the brain.

  "There’s a misconception that codeine is a weaker formula of the same class of medicine [as heroin]," Fallieras said. “But the amount of codeine these guys ingest with the syrup is massive … it’s just the same as someone being addicted to heroin, except they’re not using needles.”

  Lil Wayne has spoken about the difficulty of overcoming a sizzurp habit, which did not surprise Fallieras, who described a withdrawal from opiates.

  "One patient said to me, 'Imagine the worst flu when you’re shivering, you’re vomiting, you can’t eat, you have diarrhea, every atom in your body hurts, you can’t sleep, you lie on the floor just shivering … and multiply that times a million,'" Fallieras recounted. "And you know if you can just take the pill or inject yourself with heroin, that it just all goes away.
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  DID Z have a history of violence?

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  No.
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  I should also add that in light of all this school stuff - it has been alledged that Sabrina Fulton was not aware of the fact that he son was found with stolen property on him and what was described as a burglary tool. That's perhaps because the officer who found the stuff on Martin did not file a criminal report or a criminal investigation into the goods from a robbery - instead, as directed in dealing with black youths, he filed a 'found property' report instead. Considering that Martin then got suspended for the vandalism and not the burglary - then there wouldn't be any report or record given to her to let her know what her son had done. Had Sabrina Fulton known that her son might be guilty of having robbed someone's home and stolen their property - she might have wanted to sit down and figure out a course of action on this more serious charge. So if as she may have said - she didn't know - and if had she known, she may have chosen to punish him in another manner than sending him to his father - she too might be able to file a lawsuit. sammieswife

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  In October 2011, after a video surveillance camera caught Martin writing graffiti on a door, MDSPD Office Darryl Dunn searched Martin’s backpack, looking for the marker he had used. Officer Dunn found 12 pieces of women’s jewelry and a man’s watch, along with a flathead screwdriver the officer described as a “burglary tool.” The jewelry and watch, which Martin claimed he had gotten from a friend he refused to name, matched a description of items stolen during the October 2011 burglary of a house on 204th Terrace, about a half-mile from the school. However, because of Chief Hurley’s policy “to lower the arrest rates,” as one MDSPD sergeant said in an internal investigation, the stolen jewerly was instead listed as “found property” and was never reported to Miami-Dade Police who were investigating the burglary. Similarly, in February 2012 when an MDSPD officer caught Martin with a small plastic bag containing marijuana residue, as well as a marijuana pipe, this was not treated as a crime, and instead Martin was suspended from school.

  Either of those incidents could have put Trayvon Martin into the custody of the juvenile justice system. However, because of Chief Hurley’s attempt to reduce the school crime statistics —according to sworn testimony, officers were “basically told to lie and falsify” reports — Martin was never arrested. And if he had been arrested, he might never have been in Sanford the night of his fatal encounter with Zimmerman.
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  Oh and by the way I forgot to mention - the protection progam was specifically aimed at black youths because there were too many of them being captured in the police system - how long do you think it's going to take for any person of any other color that didn't get that special treatment to file a lawsuit? Given the litigous nature of the US - I'd say you probably have a whole whack of lawyers with their ads out now calling for victims. sammieswife
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  Well, if you consider a burglary as a petty crime that's okay - the issue however is that it still IS a crime but since he was in the black youth protection scheme the Chief had drawn up, that crime couldn't be placed in the records where it should have been.

  If it had been - instead of you asking if Zimmerman had a violent past - would you ask yourself if maybe Martin was looking in those windows to burgle the homes? Maybe not.

  By the way, there is a small issue that you are overlooking here. If the burglary took place and the police took that evidence, which is the jewellery and didn't return it to the owners (because they would have had to report his robbery as a crime with the police criminal division) then I kind of think thats illegal as well. You know - hiding evidence relating to a crime..all that good stuff that I'm sure the personal insurance department is also probably interested in now.

  As for Zimmerman. No, the judge declared those two little incidents which were by the way, recorded and read and discussed at the trial, as not relevant. The first with the 'cop' ..was dismissed entirely and never made it anywhere after all the facts came out. The second never went anywhere because it was a tit for tat argument apparently that again was never entered as a criminal issue on his record. So nope....nothing there..sammieswife
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  I don' think anyone will change their mind Simon.

  People who dig in and ignore the facts of what is going on will keep doing so. They have created their image and kept to their cause regardless of the facts and will just continue to argue theory or thought as facts. I just watched that happen on a panel speaking on this case - all 3 black men - two of them argued on Zimmermans guilt based on their own opinions - the one kept stating the facts. The other two ignored and refused to accept the facts of the case because they chose to - the other kept stating the facts. It was a no win. As I said when the journalists present fiction as fact and people repeat it as fact, the fiction becomes their reality and not the facts.

  - sammieswife
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  If you were on the Zimmerman jury, how would you vote? 2nd degree murder, manslaughter or innocent?

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  GZ didn't have any felony charges against him.

  The incidents were brought up before the judge, we heard them, the prosecution brought them up to prove their point but the evidence was presented. The first one involving a 'police officer' was tossed out entirely and nothing put on his record by order of the judge then. The 2nd was determined to be a case of he said/she said and tit for tat and again - no charges - no convicions - no criminal record.

  The paper that is writing those articles had one of their journalists on television today still spouting the same nonsense. The sad thing is that when directed by another person on the panel to stick with the facts of this case, the journalist kept harping back to his own 'theory' and telling his 'theory' about what happened as a fact. Same thing that happens on here - you print a fact - people tell you it's a lie - if a journalist keeps claiming a lie is a fact and people believe it, then the facts never matter do they? That includes in this case. sammieswife

  PS - check out the Miami Dade SPD scandal. The one where school records were kind of falsified so they could reduce the number of black youths passing through the criminal system. So if Martin had been charged with burglary and theft - both crimes - and the police had entered it into the criminal records - should that criminal record have come into play when Zimmerman believed the suspicious person could be a burglar? Could we point to intent to burgle homes based on Martins criminal past? So many of the 'what ifs'....
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  Vi - I believe this will expose a lot of things - in a great many ways and yes, I also hope that Zimmerman sues as many people as he can and wins.

  The latest fall out - the Miami Dade School Police Department scandal showing all the fraud in the school policing department and their policies - now under the microscope because of Martins records. sammieswife
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  Thank you sd - you said very politely and succinctly, what I have been trying to say since this began. Greatly appreciate your calm, common sense. sammieswife