Posts by sammielee24

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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

by Simon in

after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

sammielee24

It was said in this thread that Wilson was only 5' 7" , this is false information.

He testified in Court himself that he is just short of being 6'4" approximately 210 lbs. the same height as M Brown.

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That's true.

Context is everything.

The two were close to the same height - however Brown was 292 pounds. It was also reported that Wilson said putting his hand on Brown while the assault was happening in the vehicle, was like putting a hand on Hulk Hogan. He obviously believed his strength and ability physically to be less than that shown by Brown.

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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

by Simon in

after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

sammielee24

There is no question that Brown needed to apprehended but was the action taken by Wilson appropriate profession authoritive control ?

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Yes it was. He took control of the situation when he finally got out from under Browns assault and ran after him to try and apprehend him. He ordered Brown to get on the ground - this was so backup could get there. Brown ignored him. Brown ran at him despite the officer pointing a gun at him. Having just been punched in the head and face - having just been in a physical altercation with a man trying to take his weapon - Brown was using his physical strength as a weapon. He was using his physical strength to intimidate. If a man is raping a woman but has no weapon - how is that assault? Does a woman have a right to defend herself against a rapist who has no apparent weapon outside the physical? sw

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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

by Simon in

after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

sammielee24

Stand your ground law wouldn't apply in this case. A criminal assaulted a police officer - he tried to take an officers gun - he refused to obey a direct order to get on the ground - he continued to advance toward the officer until he was stopped by a final round of bullets. All within 90 seconds. This was all supported by forensics/autopsies/witnesses.

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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

by Simon in

after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

sammielee24

the leaders they have are living in the past and are still on the news talking about "needing justice for MB".

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On Sunday November 23rd the following statement was released by Mike Brown’s Mom, Lesley McSpadden and her husband, Louis Head(CTH)

However, after the announcement of a non-indictment there was a considerable change in sentiment:

“You motherf**kers think this is a joke” – “Burn this b*tch down”!

The crowd was more than happy to oblige (video on youtube)

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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

by Simon in

after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

sammielee24

There is no doubt that Wilson was justified in shooting Brown. Wilson's job is to protect and serve. He did that. Prior to this situation, Wilson had never fired his gun on the job before. Browns parents have gone national claiming their son is a victim of the system. The system caused his death. The parents have yet to acknowledge that they are part of the problem with the system when they have yet to accept that their son was to blame for his actions. According to the reports released, all of the forensic data supported eye witness testimony given by at least 7 African American members of the community who remain unidentified. Fear of reprisal in their own community - that's part of the problem with the 'system'. Fear of their own neighborhoods if they tell the truth - that's part of the problem. That isn't only a police problem - it's an attitude inside the community. Lately a young black girl was beat up for acting too 'white'. That's an attitude problem. 200 youths storming a mall, robbing and assaulting and destroying the place while the cops have to stand back - that's a problem. 100 youths rioting a store and stomping on the head of a young man while the cops can't do much - that's a problem. A band of 25 youths, as young as 12, roving through parks and putting a young man in a coma after stomping on him - that's a problem.

This is not 40 years ago. The peacnik revolution of old is no longer relevant. This is a new time, new attitudes about personal and social responsibility and obligation is evident, new technology is used and different resources needed. At least one black professor on the msm declared that only black cops should police black communities - this infers a return to voluntary segregation that clearly is shaping and redefining the thoughts of today vs ideas of the past.

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Ferguson Witnesss Told Investigators That Michael Brown Charged Cop "Like a Football Player. Head Down"

Included in the grand jury material released tonight after the announcement that no charges would be filed in the Michael Brown killing is a handwritten witness account stating that the teenager charged at Officer Darren Wilson “like a football player. Head down.”

The unidentified witness wrote that the 18-year-old Brown “has his arms out with attitude,” while “The cop just stood there.” The witness added, “Dang if that kid didn’t start running right at the cop like a football player. Head down.”

The witness told of hearing “3 bangs,” but “the big kid wouldn’t stop.”

The witness’s account of the unarmed Brown charging Wilson--even after he had been shot in the hand during a struggle at the cop’s patrol car--supports the officer’s contention that he fired a series of shots as Brown bore down on him.

During his September 16 grand jury testimony, Wilson, 28, recounted how he tussled with Brown when the teenager grabbed for his gun while lunging into the squad car. As they fought over the weapon, Wilson testified, the teenager taunted him, yelling, “You’re too much of a pussy to shoot me.”

Wilson told the grand jury that he felt Brown’s “fingers try to get inside the trigger guard with my finger.” He added, “I distinctly remember envisioning a bullet going into my leg. I thought that was the next step.”

Testifying that he thought Brown (seen at left) would “kill me if he gets ahold of this gun,” Wilson said that he discharged the weapon inside the cruiser. The gunshot, he added, “kind of startled him and me at the same time.” The teenager then “looked up at me and had the most intense aggressive face,” Wilson recalled. “The only way I can describe it, it looks like a demon, that’s how angry he looked.” Brown, Wilson testified, then raised his arms and punched him in the face.

Wilson also gave grand jurors another vivid description of Brown. Recalling when he first placed his hand on the teenager’s arm--when the 6’ 4”, 292-pound Brown was alongside his patrol car--Wilson testified that, “I felt like a five-year-old holding onto Hulk Hogan.” The cop added, “Hulk Hogan, that’s just how big he felt and how small I felt just from grasping his arm.”

Wilson is pictured above in a police evidence photo taken at a hospital hours after the August 9 shooting.

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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy

by Simon in

it's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.

we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.

be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.

sammielee24

And to think cousin Mitch McConnell, Paul Rand and Lamar Alexander have represented these folks for how many decades.

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posted to highlight that poverty, unemployment, frustration and feelings of disenfranchisment do not necessarily lead to looting and rioting and threats and destruction of your own community.

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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy

by Simon in

it's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.

we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.

be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.

sammielee24

Dis-enfranchisement has become the catch word for this. The Game Is Rigged is another way many look at our systems of governance.

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Violence, poverty, prejudice, frustration, oppression and suppression - it's everywhere.

Ferguson, Missouri -
Males had a median income of $34,710 versus $32,649 for females. The per capita income for the city was $20,524. About 10.2% of families and 17.6% of the population were below the poverty line, including 23.2% of those under age 18 and 13.6% of those age 65 or over. (same fig on citydata.)

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- 50% of the counties in Central Appalachiahave only one hospital and about 1 in 5 do not have a hospital at all
- On average, 20% of the people in the region live below the poverty line (the current national poverty rate for a family of four is $20,650 a year, i.e. $1,720 a month)
- The first shipment of coal out of Central Appalachia was in 1892 from Dickenson County, in Southwest Virginia; today one coal company owns approximately 40% of the land and between 60%-80% of all of the mineral rights in the county
- 80% of all Central Appalachian counties are rural, and over half of the region's population lives in these rural counties
- Extraction abuses by the coal industry, especially through mountain top removal, has destroyed more than 1,000,000 acres of forests, 500 mountains, and buried over 1,000 miles of streams in the Appalachian region
- Kentucky ranks 50th in the Nation for the number of adults who cannot read
- In Eastern Kentucky, where 60% of counties are consistently poor, the A.T. Massey company operated coal mines through 18 subsidiaries, and reported an operating profit in 2000 of $147 million with revenues of $1.1 billion
- Remote parts of Southwest Virginia are now sites of many prisons, Red Onion and Wallens Ridge - both super maximum security prisons; inmates are shipped here from across the nation and from as far away as Hawaii and urban cities in the Northeast
- In Hancock County, Tennessee the average income for a family of 4 is $14,000 a year, which is 47% of the national figure
- 1/3 of all of West Virginia's children are born into poverty
- In Logan County, West Virginia 40% of residents do not have safe drinking water
- Appalachian culture and people are consistently misrepresented in media with programming such as The Beverly Hillbillies, Lil Abner & Daisy Mae, "Appalachian Emergency Room" and Deliverance

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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy

by Simon in

it's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.

we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.

be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.

sammielee24

Apparently the justice department already said from the beginning that once the verdict has been decided, all the evidence that they had would be made public. That hasn't changed as far as I know.

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Jennings closes schools next week in expectation of grand jury decision

November 21, 2014 3:45 pm • post-dispatch.com

The region scrambled Friday to prepare for what many assume is an imminent grand jury decision in the shooting death of Michael Brown.

UPDATED to include school still planned for Ferguson-Florissant, Riverview Gardens and Hazelwood schools, and information on the fliers adults were handing out to students.

The Jennings School District will not hold school Monday and Tuesday in expectation that a grand jury will announce its decision this weekend on whether to indict officer Darren Wilson.

Parents in the Jennings district, which includes the eastern edge of Ferguson, will receive automated calls this afternoon notifying them that schools will be closed, Superintendent Tiffany Anderson said.

"With the heightened anxiety and activity, we thought it would be better for students and staff to extend the holiday at this point," she said.

The decision to close schools was not based on any notification from law enforcement that an announcement is imminent, Anderson went on to say. Once the decision becomes public, many are bracing for the possibility of volatile protests, which have been largely peaceful since Wilson fatally shot Michael Brown three months ago.

School officials aren't concerned about student safety inside the buildings, but on streets near some of them. Anderson wanted to give parents as much time as possible to figure out child-care arrangements for next week.

School district representatives from several north St. Louis County districts said closing school for two days was among the options discussed at a recent meeting with law enforcement officials. Closure would keep buses and excess traffic off streets in the event of unrest.

Children in Jennings don't have bus service. Most of them walk, making Anderson even more concerned for their safety.

On Thursday, Anderson said a group of adults wearing masks and claiming to be from Chicago were passing out fliers to students as they walked home along Cozens Avenue. The street has an elementary school, the junior high and high school.

The fliers were "encouraging students to be disruptive and encouraging them to think of police as pigs," Anderson said. "That was disturbing."

Anderson notified other school districts in north St. Louis County about the fliers. A scanned copy urges people "to pour into the streets immediately" after the announcement comes. It also says "Students should walk out of school when they hear another murdering pig has gone free."

Jennings is the first of what could be several school districts to cancel school, giving students and staff a week-long Thanksgiving break. Children who live in Ferguson and attend public school go to one of four districts — Jennings, Hazelwood, Riverview Gardens, or Ferguson-Florissant.

"At the present time, we have not made a similar decision," said Jana Shortt, spokeswoman for Ferguson-Florissant schools. "The problem right now is, we don't even know an announcement is coming."

Riverview Gardens and Hazelwood schools still plan to be in session on Monday, district representatives said.

The uncertainty of when the announcement will finally be announced has increased anxieties among children throughout the region, but particularly in schools those nearest the unrest.

"For adults, there's as great — if not greater — anxiety," Anderson said. "They're thinking a lot about how to support kids, how to make sure everything is in place" for the grand jury decision.

Even with no school, meals will be provided to children in need on Monday and Tuesday from 8 to 9 a.m., and lunch from noon to 1 p.m. at Jennings High School and Fairview Elementary School.

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Pay your subway fare in NY city - or ELSE!

by fulltimestudent in

http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/11/22/12/10/nypd-cop-filmed-splitting-man-s-head-open-with-baton.

footage has emerged of an new york city police officer striking an alleged fare-evader's head with a baton, sending the man stumbling and spraying bystanders with his blood.. the video shows the officer approach 20-year-old donovan lawson at bushwick train station in brooklyn yesterday shortly before 8pm.. graphic warning: viewers may find the contents of this video shocking.

lawson was sitting on a wooden bench and holding his hands up when the unnamed officer started throwing punches.. witness michelle anas was on her way home from work when she stumbled across the scene.. she said she went to call 911 just as the officer pulled out his truncheon and cracked lawson over the head, sending him reeling across the platform as blood poured from his skull.. "it was one of the most awful things i've ever seen," witness michelle anas told new york daily news.

sammielee24

An NYPD cop cracked an accused fare beater over the head with his nightstick in a Brooklyn subway station – splattering blood over other straphangers in a violent confrontation captured by witnesses on video.

Donovan Lawson, 20, was grabbed by the uniformed officer just before 8 p.m., Thursday at the Myrtle Avenue station, but started wriggling while the cop tried to subdue him, according to Marielle Anas, who shot one of several videos of the arrest.

“He was trying to restrain him,” said Anas, 28, a writer for Wenner Media. “He punched the kid’s head like three or four times.”

As a crowd, including Lawson’s girlfriend, gathered and yelled at the cop to stop, he again punched Lawson, who was still struggling as the officer tried to cuff him.

The cop at that point slammed Lawson into a wall, pulled out his baton and struck the suspect on the head, a blow that caused blood to gush over a wall, turnstile and witnesses’ clothing, she said.

“That first crack was like ‘Woah, what’s going on?” Anas told The Post. “Then everyone was like ’Why would he crack [him] with a nightstick?’”

“The whole subway was covered in blood. The kid never lost consciousness but he definitely looked out of it. He hugged a pole to steady himself. Then the cop dragged him down the stairs.”

The department’s Internal Affairs Bureau is investigating the incident.

Lawson has prior arrests for robbery and assault and police have recovered weapons from him in the past, law enforcement sources said.

He was charged with intent to defraud public transportation, resisting arrest, disorderly conduct, harassment and obstruction of governmental administration.

Anas, who was interviewed by Internal Affairs, said she dialed 911 for an ambulance after the suspect was struck. (New York Post)

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US Immigration Contradictions

by Simon in

are you having a hard time trying to figure out exactly which party (democrat vs republican) is pro or anti immigration?.

that is, both the democrats and the republicans are both pro and anti at the same time but for exctly opposite reasons and this is why they can't agree and sort anything out.. the republicans are the party of business.

they actually like immigrants - who's going to pick the crops and do all those low paid jobs that others won't?

sammielee24

http://www.washingtontimes.com...

"President Obama is making his announcement to grant legal status for millions of illegal immigrants on Mexico’s “Revolution Day.”The president’s prime-time address Thursday coincides with the date in 1910 when the Mexican revolution began. The timing hasn’t escaped the notice of the Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, a group that opposes the president’s plan.“November 20 is Mexican ‘Revolution Day‘ or Mexican ‘Civil War Day,’ which is the equivalent of America’s 4th of July,” said William Gheen, president of ALIPAC. “Obama’s choice of this date for his departure from his oath of office and the U.S. Constitution creates a permanent symbolic relationship between his actions and Mexico’s violent revolutionary and civil wars from 1910-1920.”Mr. Gheen said the president “is making a powerful and dangerous symbolic declaration to large Spanish media audiences today comparing his new immigration orders to the violent Mexican revolution and civil war.”