Posts by oldflame

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PREACHING has STOPPED / ARMAGEDDON has BEGUN !!

by DannyHaszard in

received via email from a supporter,has anyone heard of this watchtower cult development?

{...i just wanted to let you know about some recent and alarming news in the wts.

my sister, who is not baptized yet, has been going to the meetings on a regular basis with my mom, who is full time pioneer.

oldflame

that 'preaching has stop already in over 20 countries'

This is because they were run out of these countries and not allowed to go door to door.

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I'm back!!!!

by RichieRich in

jw
friends

hello again from sunny north carolina!!!.

our state lotto started today, and i won 15 dollars, and only bought 1 $1 card.

so whoop whoop for gambling.. i was in miami florida last week for the photoshop world conference, but i also got to tour the everglades, where i took some beautiful pictures.

oldflame

Richie,

Great job snatching up that info. I think this will come in handy for some people I know

For Trace,

by oldflame in

trace,.

recently you made a couple of post on a political thread.

i felt the impelled to explain something to you through my experience here on this board.

Recently you made a couple of post on a political thread. I felt the impelled to explain something to you through my experience here on this board. You had stated that we should not post threads about our political views here and should post political views on a political board.

Let me explain my experience to you and maybe it will enlighten you about your comments on a previous thread.

First it was not long ago there were a few threads started about Gays. I expressed my feelings about homosexuality and had said that I felt the gay people should go to a gay board if they wanted to post about gay ideas. I had long thought about this and had come to a realization that I was being selfish for several reasons.

I had not realized that there was a drop down box in the action part of this home page. In this action box there is a list of many topics to post in one being (adult) and if you take notice there is also a political list there too. You have to understand that here there are many ex witnesses and a few active ones. These people were deprived of there rights to do things that are actually actions we as a people have the God given rights to do, one of them being to vote.

For us speaking out about something we were not allowed to do in the past has given us a new freedom. This discussion board is a board open to many kinds of discussions. You call us names for posting here about political issues when there is a topic listing for political discussions.

I have learned not to be so critical about what someone else talks about because we all have needs that we did not have when we were involved in the JW religion. We all have questions , thoughts and personal feelings. Either being an issue of personal or politcal or even just funny fluff.

You got to learn to just let it go and not be so critical. Relax and roll with the flow. It does no one any good by being critical about what one person wants to talk about. I had to learn this same lesson and since just excepting and being understanding for others it has made me a better person, it will make you a better person too.

Anyway just a lesson on humility which we all can use some of.

I hope you stay here, post your view or thoughts or even suggestions and you will find that there are a lot of very fine people here no matter who they are or where they come from or what they feel the need to discuss, it's all good. It's ok if you disagree with what someone post here, not everyone is going to agree and if there is a thread you don't feel like you want to discuss then don't post. It simple. But you need to learn humility as I did.

Good luck and welcome to the board.

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Re: telling on one another

by A Paduan in

read this on another board about jws "telling on one another" .

sad and pathetic to the point of being humourous .

if things started to go wrong in the congregation (no increase in publishers/bible studies, teenagers playing up, contributions down) they would say jehovah was witholding his spirit from the congregation because someone must be sinning secretly and thus offending his spirit, and this is why the congregation wasn't flourishing.

oldflame

As Gumballs runs to the bathroom to tame his monkey........LOL

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Medicinal Marijuana laws going back to Federal Court

by oldflame in

jw
friends

the justices have come down against allowing the sick and dying to use the drug to ease their symptoms and possibly prolong life.

however, the door has never been fully closed, and now a federal appeals court is set to hear arguments in the latest round of legal wrangling over the issue.. the case to be argued monday before the 9th u.s. circuit court of appeals in san francisco narrows the matter to the so-called right to life theory: that marijuana should be allowed if it is the only viable option to keep a patient alive or free of excruciating pain.. it would apply only to the sickest patients and their suppliers, regardless of whether they live in one of the 11 mostly western states that allow medical marijuana.. "a victory would affect people who are very seriously ill, facing death or great physical suffering," said randy barnett, a boston university law school professor working on the case.. the case was brought by angel raich, a 40-year-old mother of two from oakland who suffers from scoliosis, a brain tumor, chronic nausea and other ailments.

she uses marijuana every couple of hours to ease her pain and bolster her appetite.. "she'd probably be dead without marijuana," said her doctor, frank lucido, who has recommended marijuana for some 3,000 patients.

oldflame

I understand that in Canada the law does not go after the pot smoker because it takes the cops away from more serious crimes. This is one reason why our prisons here are so over loaded because they fill them up with pot smokers which in turn cost Americans millions to house these people.

I think Canada has it right. Go after those who steal and murder instead of the one who is doing nothing but smoking weed.

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baptize sister hoping to meet a brother

by tiffani in

hi my name is tanya and i am 21 years old i have been in the truth for almost 11 years.

i am a little shy and that's why its hard for me to meet a brother.

i hope to meet someone who's spiritual strong, who shows jehovah that they are a dedicated servant to him and who also put spirtual goals first.

oldflame

Hey Simon, You are now the owner of an active Jehovahs Witness singles site (LOL)

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SoSoSad

by Madame Quixote in

i feel that nothing i say or do will ever make a difference for them or for others.

they are so locked into, so imprisoned in their marriage to the wbts.

they may never hear or see any real truth about the borg, no matter what i say and do, i know this every day; but some days it just hits me so hard.

oldflame

I am sorry to hear about your sadness but I can relate. I ahve a mother who is witness and several family members. I have just come to realize that no one can change everyone and there are some in this cult that will never come out. I think mostly because of fear more than anything else and I don't believe it's a fear of God as much as it is a fear of the society and that is the sad part of it all.

I tend to rely on my friends and stay away from my family, they are not very friendly people my family. Always talking about each other, telling lies and evil misdeeds towards those who are not witness like them. I have found that I can be just as happy with my friends than my witness family and hat allows me a peace of mind. Because I just simply gave up on them.

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Medicinal Marijuana laws going back to Federal Court

by oldflame in

jw
friends

the justices have come down against allowing the sick and dying to use the drug to ease their symptoms and possibly prolong life.

however, the door has never been fully closed, and now a federal appeals court is set to hear arguments in the latest round of legal wrangling over the issue.. the case to be argued monday before the 9th u.s. circuit court of appeals in san francisco narrows the matter to the so-called right to life theory: that marijuana should be allowed if it is the only viable option to keep a patient alive or free of excruciating pain.. it would apply only to the sickest patients and their suppliers, regardless of whether they live in one of the 11 mostly western states that allow medical marijuana.. "a victory would affect people who are very seriously ill, facing death or great physical suffering," said randy barnett, a boston university law school professor working on the case.. the case was brought by angel raich, a 40-year-old mother of two from oakland who suffers from scoliosis, a brain tumor, chronic nausea and other ailments.

she uses marijuana every couple of hours to ease her pain and bolster her appetite.. "she'd probably be dead without marijuana," said her doctor, frank lucido, who has recommended marijuana for some 3,000 patients.

oldflame

Hell I thought this would be a hot thread. That's what I get for thinking again

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Medicinal Marijuana laws going back to Federal Court

by oldflame in

jw
friends

the justices have come down against allowing the sick and dying to use the drug to ease their symptoms and possibly prolong life.

however, the door has never been fully closed, and now a federal appeals court is set to hear arguments in the latest round of legal wrangling over the issue.. the case to be argued monday before the 9th u.s. circuit court of appeals in san francisco narrows the matter to the so-called right to life theory: that marijuana should be allowed if it is the only viable option to keep a patient alive or free of excruciating pain.. it would apply only to the sickest patients and their suppliers, regardless of whether they live in one of the 11 mostly western states that allow medical marijuana.. "a victory would affect people who are very seriously ill, facing death or great physical suffering," said randy barnett, a boston university law school professor working on the case.. the case was brought by angel raich, a 40-year-old mother of two from oakland who suffers from scoliosis, a brain tumor, chronic nausea and other ailments.

she uses marijuana every couple of hours to ease her pain and bolster her appetite.. "she'd probably be dead without marijuana," said her doctor, frank lucido, who has recommended marijuana for some 3,000 patients.

oldflame

the justices have come down against allowing the sick and dying to use the drug to ease their symptoms and possibly prolong life.

However, the door has never been fully closed, and now a federal appeals court is set to hear arguments in the latest round of legal wrangling over the issue.

The case to be argued Monday before the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco narrows the matter to the so-called right to life theory: that marijuana should be allowed if it is the only viable option to keep a patient alive or free of excruciating pain.

It would apply only to the sickest patients and their suppliers, regardless of whether they live in one of the 11 mostly Western states that allow medical marijuana.

"A victory would affect people who are very seriously ill, facing death or great physical suffering," said Randy Barnett, a Boston University law school professor working on the case.

The case was brought by Angel Raich, a 40-year-old mother of two from Oakland who suffers from scoliosis, a brain tumor, chronic nausea and other ailments. She uses marijuana every couple of hours to ease her pain and bolster her appetite.

"She'd probably be dead without marijuana," said her doctor, Frank Lucido, who has recommended marijuana for some 3,000 patients. "Nothing else works."

The Bush administration says the lawsuit is without merit.

"There is no fundamental right to distribute, cultivate or possess marijuana," Assistant U.S. Attorney Mark Quinlivan, the government's lead medical marijuana attorney, wrote to the appeals court.

Voters in 1996 made California the first state to authorize patients to use marijuana with a doctor's recommendation. Ten other states have since followed suit but the federal government insists there is no medical value to the drug.

In 2001, the Supreme Court ruled that Raich's supplier, the Oakland Cannabis Buyer's Cooperative, could not lawfully dispense marijuana despite the California voters' action.

Two years later, in a small victory for medical marijuana backers, the high court let stand a 9th Circuit decision saying doctors have a First Amendment right to discuss or recommend the drug to patients without the threat of federal sanctions.

But last June, the Supreme Court ruled the federal government could prosecute medical marijuana users and their suppliers.

In some states, federal agents have been sporadically arresting users and raiding so-called pot clubs that dole out the drug to patients. Raich herself was arrested this month for disorderly conduct while demonstrating outside the federal courthouse in Oakland over a recent raid on a medical marijuana dispensary.

However, a footnote by Justice Clarence Thomas in his 2001 ruling left the legal questions surrounding medical marijuana unsettled and helped open the door to Monday's hearing.

Thomas wrote that important underlying constitutional questions remain unresolved, such as Congress' ability to interfere with states experimenting with their own laws and whether Americans have a fundamental right to marijuana as a vehicle to help them stay alive and ease pain.

The justices answered the first part of that footnote in June, ruling in another case brought by Raich that patients living in states with medical marijuana laws could be prosecuted because Congress has classified marijuana as an illegal controlled substance.

That prompted Reps. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., and Maurice Hinchey, D-N.Y., to propose legislation that would have blocked federal prosecution of medical marijuana users in states where it is legal. The House voted against the measure, 264-161. Hinchey will resurrect the proposal this summer, a spokesman said.

Raich's latest action is a bid to settle the second part of Thomas' footnote.

Even if it is successful, the case would be unlikely to stop the federal raids on pot clubs or protect most users and suppliers.

Regardless of the outcome, Raich said she will continue using marijuana to treat her symptoms, and will keep fighting to do so without the threat of prosecution. She expects her case to go from the 9th Circuit to the Supreme Court no matter what the outcome.

"I am going to keep doing this until they stop me because this is not a medical cannabis case but a right to life case," she said. "The federal government can say who can live and who can die if I lose in the Supreme Court."

Above the Bush Administration was qouted saying there is no medicinal value in Marijuana. Well just what the hell is Marinol ?

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Placed 6 magazines this morning

by stillajwexelder in

just thought i would let you all know, that as part of my ongoing theocratic warfare strategy i placed 6 magazines this morning.

i will be recording about 20 on my time slip though

oldflame

I got to ask you all,

The other day I stopped at a circle K to get a soda, there are 2 pay phones outside the store and I could not help but notice each pay phone had an awake sitting on them. Do the JW's actually count that as time ? Or record it as service work ? I am sure the wind took them to a gutter somewhere and I don't see the honesty in claiming to do the Lords works by leaving more garbage to blow around our streets.

After all does not the scriptures say that God will destroy those who destroy the earth ?

So first it a lie when they claim they placed a magazine because I believe they are actually to be placed with anopther person and then they break the laws of the land by littering the ground with there rags.