the highest i ever got was my being considered for a ministerial servant back in fall'ish 2004. .
of course, i also started college that semester, and was given an ultimatum and now i'm here .
but anyway, when and what was your pinnacle height in the organization?
I just wanted to echo what Geevee said,
BIG DEAL it is all BS. These "positions" are just garbage and only serve to show how mind locked I was
That's is how I see it now that it's past. At the time I thought I was a very spiritual man and had my act together. Little did I know that what I really knew wasn't my bible but WT dogma.
well.......i figured it's about time to tell my story...bear with me, it's close to bedtime and i'll probably have to break this up.... .
i was born on may 22, 1985 into a family full of dubs minus the dad...my father never had much to do w/ religion.
after that, it's pretty much blank, except for what was recounted to me by family members..
Thank you for sharing JoJo. I'm sorry for all that you've went through. I know that there will be some who can benefit from your sharing.
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Hi Ariel. I'm a fader too. I'm not inactive yet but I'm reaching for the stars and plan on being inactive soon. :)
Good luck on your fade and I look forward to your posts.
hello everyone.. i am new to this forum...at least i think i am...i swear that i joined before and left a message...but maybe i was just dreaming.. anyway, i am, what seems to be termed in this forum, a fading jw.
my wife is still a jw and when i try to talk to her she will go on about me becoming an apostate, but i have learnt so much about the wtbts these last few months that fading and leaving is so easy for me now.
i know that there is a lot of hate and false stuff said about the wtbts but also a lot of things are true, like the famous ngo business and being a shareholder of a company that produces parts that are used in weapons.
Welcome Kero Kero. Nice Avatar.
Fading can be really hard on a marriage. Keep loving your wife and treating her with respect. She will find you a refreshment while the congregation becomes a burden.
Good luck.
i rented a house in the late !970's and the contents in the home were given to me.. it happened to be books: ( making my life happy, revelation, children bible stories, listening to the great teacher ) i was enjoying the reading.. -----------------------------------.
a few years later began to notice awake magazines in doctor offices, and other public places and read them and enjoyed them.. ------------------------------------.
late 1980's my 7th son was 2 yrs.
jw,
welcome. This is my first post addressed to you.
Wow, you've really got some thread going. I never get long threads like this. Well done.
Onto the subject. Yes, providing for one's family is highly important to witnesses and is a priority. But, the key aspect of providing for our families is spiritiually. That is what will give them the real life. Providing for them in this system is important as long as it is to provide the basic essentials. It sounds like you're an inactive witness which the elders have stopped trying to shepherd you (if I've missed something you've posted on this already please forive me).
If your circumstances are such that you cannot have a regular share in the ministry provisions can and should be made that you can at least get 15 minutes in a month. 15 minutes! You could incidental witness to the check out clerk at the grocery store each week and get 15 minutes. Really, the slave has made ample provision for us to be able to share in the ministry despite the dificult circumstances many of us find ourselves in. Perhaps, if we can't find some way to support the kingdom preaching work each month we need to ask ourselves if we are truly buying our time out wisely. I've known publishers who will sit down for one or two minutes every other day and write letters! By the end of the month they have had anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours in the ministry!
OK my WT speak is over. You see you are dealing with individuals on this board who were/are ministerial servants, elders, bethelites, etc etc. We know the rules and the pressures exerted. We know when something sounds fishy and unusual. Your situation sounds unusual. I hope for the best for you. Auld Soul's posts have been spot on. Read, meditate on them and test them out to see if he's full of doo-doo. If not, pray pray pray for help and God will give you the peace of mind that excels all thought.
Good luck jw.
well, i didn't think i'd be back on jwd for awhile.
but new things are happening in my life.
my parents are starting to panic because of me standing for what i feel is right.
Auld Soul, are you saying you don't believe in the inspiration of the NT? I find that hard to believe.
Or are you saying that this particular line of reasoning would work well on a witness because of the "great apostasy" angle? Which I think sounds more like you.
any comments or advice gratefully recieved.
diehard pioneer wife etc...
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Oh, I forgot to put this in my earlier post. Your wife's faith may not be dependent on yours at all. She may stand alone. In that case it's not her very foundation you'll be taking away but her own comfort level with her own foundation. It can be scary to have your world rocked.
i'd say out of 10 elders, the average "sharp" ones are 2 or 3.
No. I've known plenty of intelligent elders and ministerial servants.
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would you mind being rated on a site like hot or not?.
have you ever tried it?
uhhhhh, any links?
sorry for the long post!.
what the watchtower society says:.
24 the book of truthful historical dates ***.
yeah, what's wrong with you - are you crazy or something?
Seriously, great post, and nice summation of a thorny topic.
