Oh I didn't know. Thanks Blondie. Maybe one day his family or a friend will find some personal notes that he didn't want released until he passed away.
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Governing Body Secretary at time of Ray Franz
by TheListener inin his books ray franz mentions the name of the man who was the governing body secretary.
i believe this person also left the witnesses during the 1980s purge.
what became of this person?
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Governing Body member John O Groh
by TheListener incan anyone tell the story of john o groh?
ray and the wts mention him as a society director and member of the early 1970s governing body..
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He is one of a couple early GB members that no one really talked about much or mentions today. He was sort of a filler GB member. Perhaps if he had lived into the 1980s he would have been more of a topic of discussion.
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Governing Body Secretary at time of Ray Franz
by TheListener inin his books ray franz mentions the name of the man who was the governing body secretary.
i believe this person also left the witnesses during the 1980s purge.
what became of this person?
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Yes, Jon Mitchell, that's it. I remember his book now. I found the subject interesting and all but I felt that someone with his access behind closed doors should have had some really interesting stories to tell. I wish he would write something else which pulls the curtain back a bit on the GB.
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Governing Body Secretary at time of Ray Franz
by TheListener inin his books ray franz mentions the name of the man who was the governing body secretary.
i believe this person also left the witnesses during the 1980s purge.
what became of this person?
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in his books Ray Franz mentions the name of the man who was the Governing Body secretary. I believe this person also left the witnesses during the 1980s purge. What became of this person? Did he keep records that he took with him? Wouldn't he have been able to write a real eye opening account of what went on? It seems that he would have access to all the meeting agendas, minutes and voting subjects and vote counts. Maybe this person did write a book and I just don't know what it is.
Any information?
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Governing Body member John O Groh
by TheListener incan anyone tell the story of john o groh?
ray and the wts mention him as a society director and member of the early 1970s governing body..
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Can anyone tell the story of John O Groh? Ray and the WTS mention him as a Society Director and member of the early 1970s Governing Body.
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New Member-Active Elder
by Promitheas ini'm a new member & i'd like to say hi to everyone, intoducing myself.. i am a 3rd generation born-in at mid 50's & an active elder.. english is not my mother language, so pls ignore any grammatical errors.
i live in a small country in europe.. i'd like to thank you for all information posted.
some of them have rally helped me to understand and examine again my beliefs.. last new light concerning f&ds=gb has verified the idea that they are popes in the position op pope.. i still believe in god & in his son jesus christ but not in the gb..
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Welcome! Glad you found the board and hope it helps you in many ways.
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Welcome El_Guapo! I just saw this thread and wanted to jump in and say hello. Sounds like you handled the stepping aside thing really well. Just remmeber the advice you've been given. I remember the lightened load offer as well. And the 2 elder grill session. I made it through without raising suspicions and just slowly faded into the night.
Best of luck El_Guapo! Remember there are a plethora of things to do with your time once you're out.
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New Member / MS still in...
by Comatose infeels real strange typing this.
i was what you all call born in.
i was happy growing up.
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Welcome Comatose! Glad you posted. Hang in there and remember what others have said - you are not as alone as you probably feel. There are many here who were born in and served in various capacities. Keep listening, learning and making good friends.
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Elders finally took me to the back room...
by OneDayillBeFree inafter several months of leaving the meetings as soon as they ended or only staying for "the first meeting" then leaving the "second part", the elders finally cornered me at last night's meeting.. they said they were concerned about me and that being that i am a young brother in a recently divided congregation they saw so much potential in me to help out the congregation and become a ms.. i told them i was thankful for their thinking of me to help the congregation but that at the moment i could not due to my job.
then the began asking personal questions that got on my nerves.. they asked where i worked and how much i made.
they asked if i was going to college and what i was studying and for how long.
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If you're fading and want to keep it that way I suggest being as nice as pie and letting them know how much stress you are under at work and that it can tend to make you depressed. But, that you are doing the best you can and really appreciate the love of the congregation and that you always feel better after a meeting.
Fading means playing a game in which they make all the rules. It's like survivor but instead of prize money it's the relationship with our families that we win. Kinda sucks really.
Of course we don't want to follow their rules and give them power but by fading we sort of sign up for that.
Fading takes time and patience. I wish you the best of luck.
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Redhorsewoman from DriveslikeJehu
by Antioch inhi redhorsewoman,.
i doubt you still log on here but i wanted to try.
i just wanted to thank you for arguing with me all those years ago on beliefnet.
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Wow! I remember you DrivesLikeJehu and RedHorseWoman. Your arguments and those of others profoundly affected me as I was wrestling with my own spirituality. I couldn't wait to read the latest Pro-JW and Anti-JW discussions at Beliefnet and Touchstone Forum.
Does anyone remember AdamN from Beliefnet? The 607 arguments between AdamN and others really opened my eyes and were one of the main catalysts for me studying deeper and eventually finding freedom.