Posts by TheListener

so my wife and i were curious so i researched some financial links and found records indicating that the wt society has been operating at a loss since the year 2012. as you read the links it shows a loss of 10 million $$$ in 2012, about 16 million $$$ in 2013, and a whopping loss of 56 million $$$ in 2014 - where the expenditures exceeded the revenues for each of those years in the amount i've mentioned.

also there is a link on this same website with the sec records indicating that the wt society and it's representatives funneled 40 million $$$$ into hedge funds in the cayman islands as early as 2007. if you look online on other sites you can see evidence that indicates the wt society attended hedge fund conferences to look into more shadiness in 2011 and isn't it curious that by 2012 the wt society started showing losses.

anyway here is the link : https://www.watchtowerlies.com/the_watchtower_revenue.html .. feel free to check this link out and other links on that link indicating the cayman island connection.

TheListener

Billzfan, wow haven't seen you post in a long long time. It's good to see you again.

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Stranger in my own house, Since my wife and i don't talk much anymore nor sleep in the same bed. i feel like a stranger.

by goingthruthemotions in

my wife is shunning me.

she is always in cult mode, we don't talk anymore, we don't sleep in the same bed.

i have been sleeping on the couch.

TheListener

Confrontation is hard and change is hard. If GTTM engages his wife about their current situation (the confrontation part) and requires changes (change #1 possibly good changes) to be made then he runs the risk of her requiring a change - divorce or separation (change #2 possibly bad changes).

I sometimes fall into the trap of: let's let sleeping dogs lie for awhile then maybe things will get better. I think that's called passive-aggressive (because I complain or mumble) or avoidant behavior (because I try to completely ignore the problem no matter how sick it makes me). (from prevention.com).

For me the problems usually don't get better, but I never learn. In time I have to do the uncomfortable thing and have a confrontation. Not a fight or arugment but at least a discussion.

GTTM I can't tell you how bad I feel about your circumstances. You don't have any really easy choices in front of you. But, above all, please take care of yourself and your kids. I don't know if they are dubs or not but either way they need your love and support.

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When did the Watchtower start opposing evolution with respect to animals?

by slimboyfat in

the photo-drama of creation (1912) says that god directed the evolution of animals into their current "fixed" forms, but that humans were created directed.

the divine plan of the ages said the same thing.

(various editions late 1800s to early 1900s) the 1898 booklet on evolution opposes the evolution of man but doesn't discuss animal evolution.

TheListener

Are there any references in current WT literature about micro-evolution or do they just talk about specific animals and how they've adapted to their environment?

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Stranger in my own house, Since my wife and i don't talk much anymore nor sleep in the same bed. i feel like a stranger.

by goingthruthemotions in

my wife is shunning me.

she is always in cult mode, we don't talk anymore, we don't sleep in the same bed.

i have been sleeping on the couch.

TheListener

I'm really sorry to hear this GTTM. My situation isn't nearly to the point yours is but my wife hasn't had to face the fact that I'm apostate because we don't discuss it. I faded a long time ago.

I don't think you should feel it necessary to sleep on the couch and avoid most of the household rooms because she is not willing to allow you to be your own person. You have a right to your personal beliefs and so does she. Neither of you should punish the other for personal beliefs. It's my opinion that you feeling uncomfortable and avoiding her around the house and in the bed won't make things better, they just stress you out. Perhaps you should try a different tactic? Maybe you should make dinner and tell everyone, including her, it's time to eat and have the kids help set the table. If she doesn't come or doesn't speak during dinner you and the kids have a conversation and talk and just go on with your normal lives as best as possible.

That's just my advice but I don't know the details of your situation and I know it's so so so hard being in a house where you don't feel wanted.

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Just read this on JW Talk......

by WHATSGOINGON in

just saw this on the public area of jwtalk (i am not a member).

here is the link.. http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/23523-privvy-news/.

such a shame - i do feel for these ones - i just don't know what to say.... wgo.

TheListener

What really bugs me is that in all likelihood those posters are expressing very similar thoughts to my wife.

As the kids and I talk about various news subjects or school projects she is probably thinking those same things.

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Let's Consolidate World Branch Layoff Threads - Oct 2015

by TheListener in

jw
friends

there has been many threads from various posters around the world about recent bethel layoffs.. so far i remember threads about:.

south africa.

united states.

TheListener

Wow! Thanks Richard. Its dirty clothes and sack lunch time.

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Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

by thedepressedsoul in

here is an idea i tested.

works at both assemblies and conventions.

i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

TheListener

I've used a tethering app before when we were on a trip. everyone was able to use my unlimited data. No one could see my actual device or anything on it or even tell where I was. It was just a wifi signal that they latched onto. I could tell how many were using it but not their IP or anything device specific for them.

the password for the assemblies could always be Ray_Franz. That way apostates or posters here or people who gossip about what they read here would know the password and you could tell how many devices were latched onto your wifi signal and know that they knew the password...

No one will look around an assembly or convention the same way again.