Posts by TheListener

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Just found out their about to baptise my 14 year old boy.

by Crazyguy in

there doing this right under my nose but i just found out.

not sure what to do but would like your help on getting me wt information on my headship role and how they shouldn't be doing this with out my permission.

also would like some help on showing my son the ramifications on what happens to someone when they get baptized and how they'll expect him to treat me.

TheListener

Hang in there CrazyGuy. You're in a tough situation. Your spouse is really working hard to get your kid(s) in the truth and is convinced that having them baptized will lock them in so to speak. In my opinion the key thing for you to do is love your son unconditionally. It may make you physically sick to see this happen but if you stand by him whether or not he gets baptized he may see the light one day and knows that you will be there for him. A lot of us never had that from a parent.

It seems like you are doing all you can. My oldest told me several years ago that she was going to get baptized. When I asked why she admitted it was to make mom happy. I told her that baptism can't be undone and that she could get disfellowshipped if she makes mistakes in life and that she can't change her mind. She said she could change her mind just like I did. As a kid she had no idea how hard fading was and that I wasn't actually free to just speak my mind and change how I felt without walking on eggshells.

So, perhaps ask your son about disfellowshipping or the fact that Jehovah will destroy 99.99% of everyone on the planet. See if he has thought of those things and how they affect him.

I was able to get my daughter to agree that she would wait until she was 18 to get baptized. She isn't a witness. In fact she called it a cult several times over the past couple months and wants to know how we can get mom out.

Feel free to PM anytime.

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I'm Catholic and madly in love with a Jehovah Witness...

by Luge62 in

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we are madly in love with each other and she is in the process of being divorced.

let me make one thing clear i'm not the reason for the divorce.

she attempted to reconcile with him but to no avail.

TheListener

Hi Luge. I hope you're still reading and really thinking.

So many posters hit the nail on the head. Please excuse the yelling but it's critical BEING A WITNESS ISN'T SOMETHING YOU DO; IT IS SOMETHING YOU ARE. IT PERMEATES 99.99% OF EVERY DECISION THAT IS MADE. This includes clothing styles, makeup, hair, car you drive, sex, own or rent home, vacations, reading, tv, movies, politics, news stories (OMG news stories, everything good or bad shows Armageddon is tomorrow), long term planning (there isn't much) and work (such as promotions, education, overtime, etc).

I would add that what happens a lot is that the witness who marries outside the Lord will begin to feel a sense of guilt after a certain amount of time (the amount of time depends on the person) and when they return to Jehovah they will be more involved and active in the congregation than ever before.

In her mind you are great guy and since you are a great guy she knows you will make a great witness. Everyone in the congregation and her family will work towards that result. You will be viewed as a potential witness for the duration of your relationship. I can't tell you how many unbelieving husbands I have befriended because we wanted to show them how normal witnesses are and how great it is to be one. I was really their friend, but it was conditional. Once they showed no interest or potential I moved on since I wasn't interested in having a worldly friend.

In her mind and in her family's mind you will be separating her from Jehovah and costing her everlasting life in a paradise earth. That's not a great foundation for a marriage.

Don't even get me started on having kids and raising them in that type of environment. Trust me, I do it every day!

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ANNOUNCEMENT CLIP ...2015 Annual meeting Sam Herd confirming what we knew a month ago about slow down and halt of worldwide construction

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_h68ktwpim&feature=youtu.be.

TheListener

We don't have a money problem....but, we are halting, delaying and cancelling construction projects worldwide, we are reducing bethel staffs around the world, bethelites will have to care for their own services, magazines reduced to bi-monthly, temporary pioneers reduced in affluent lands, special pioneers reduced as well.

But, we are doing well financially, however, we must make use of our available funds wisely.

He talks about an accelerated growth pace for the good news. How is that possible since there numbers don't show an accelerated growth rate? They show a minor growth rate.

Follow the money!

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Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

by thedepressedsoul in

here is an idea i tested.

works at both assemblies and conventions.

i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

TheListener

Since most dubs arent very tech savvy you could name the Wi-Fi signal "I_know_your_mom_is_apostate". Half the dubs seeing that would actually believe it was written just for them.

Imagine the lunch scene when dozens of children confront their mothers about being apostate. 😎

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JW Table at My Student Center Today, My Response

by breakfast of champions in

they're baaaack!!!

jws "tabling" at my student center again, first time in over six months.

i wonder if the fact it's been 15 degrees out had anything to do with it?

TheListener

Awesome job!!!

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Fighting about college

by cognac in

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my nephew is a sweet, smart, thoughtful person.

he wants to go to college.. normally, a mom would be proud to have a son like this.. nope, not a friggin jw mom.

apparently, he's being selfish to both her and jehovah.

TheListener

Cognac, can you help by showing your nephew how to look for scholarships online? Also, his high school probably has lots of scholarship information and most high schools use a website that keeps track of their SAT scores and lets them search for potential schools. Maybe you can convince his mother to fill out the free FAFSA form which would help him quality, maybe, for financial aid.

You're a great aunt but it's really unfortunate that his mother's desire to keep him away from college may put more work on you if you decide you can help out.

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Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

by thedepressedsoul in

here is an idea i tested.

works at both assemblies and conventions.

i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

TheListener

I don't know what it is but anything with the word hijacking in it sounds baaaaad.

I really think simpler is better. A well named Wi-Fi signal will let like minded ones know they are not alone and true believers worried in their seats.

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Did Jesus really die on a cross?

by macys in

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being raised a catholic we had lots of crosses around the house.

when my family converted to this cult they were all removed and destroyed in case they had demons in them lol but at this juncture in my life i do not even know if jesus as the way he is portrayed in the bible was real.

yes a man named jesus did live and die 2000 years ago and probably on a cross but he was definitely not the son of god.

TheListener

While I personally don't care, my loved ones think this is a big deal so being able to discuss it with them and make solid scriptural and historical points is important. Well, was important, we don't have those types of discussions anymore.

Leolaia's thread was the best and most complete thread on this subject I've read.

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Hague court stops tax free status for Scientologists

by GoneAwol in

http://www.nltimes.nl/2015/10/22/hague-court-deals-blow-to-scientology-tax-free-status/.

from the article -"the dutch branch of the church of scientology has lost its tax status as public welfare institution, and the tax benefits that go along with it, in a ruling made by the court in the hague on wednesday.

the court decided that the sales of the churchs expensive courses and therapy sessions are clearly aimed at making a profit, and thus it does not belong on the tax authorities charity list.".

TheListener

I agree that any church money or property not directly used for charitable works should be taxed. That would include taxing support staff office buildings and complexes.

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Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

by thedepressedsoul in

here is an idea i tested.

works at both assemblies and conventions.

i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

TheListener

Would it be possible to have a strong enough signal that you could sit in a car in the lot or on the street?

That way anyone could do it at any assembly or convention and not have to actually attend.