Wait, have you seen a recent picture of his mother? Are we talking young motherF#%@! or old motherF@#!!#%?
TheListener
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Jeb Bush would kill a baby !
by Simon inok, specifically he was talking about hitler.
apparently he was asked whether, if he could go back in time, he would kill him when he was a baby.. and he said "hell yeah !".
but still wtf?
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JWs have more good points than bad
by lsw1961 in1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).
2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.
this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.
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Welcome LSW, glad you posted. What else do you disagree with the WTS about? I'm always curious about how current JWs feel about things. -
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Do You Think 10% Tithing is Coming?
by xjwsrock infirstly, there are cash flow problems in wt town.
i don't think it's necessary to list all the cutbacks and layoffs, but there have been many.. their thirst for money seems higher too in my opinion.
more entitled may be a better way of putting it.
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TheListener
I don't see how they could do it and actually expect to receive the money. A lot of jw families contain an unbelieving mates. It's doubtful that an unbelieving mate, male or female, would accept their spouse giving 10% of their income to the WTS.
Plus as others have said most dubs don't have much money so why upset your followers with tithing when you won't really get much out of it.
The WTS is probably better off just beating the money drum more regularly than they used to. Show some emotionally charged videos and look really sad. The money will come in from those that have it.
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Jeb Bush would kill a baby !
by Simon inok, specifically he was talking about hitler.
apparently he was asked whether, if he could go back in time, he would kill him when he was a baby.. and he said "hell yeah !".
but still wtf?
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TheListener
Stupid question; Jeb should have said so. Or maybe he should have said "you yourself have said it" -
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Refused to go to meeting wife broke frying pan on my car....now SHE is inactive 4 years my advice!!!
by Witness 007 inmy wife is a stubborn stubborn woman.
when we got the internet in 1998 i slowly faded due to trying to prove apostates are lairs and scum...only to find they told nothing but "the truth.
" every qoute was checked and re-checked.
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TheListener
Thanks for sharing that story. It was very funny to me. Glad your wife curses. That's the best kind of wife. -
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Too Much Discontent in Congregation Part 1
by Simon Templar ini am seeing and hearing many, many long-time jws openly expressing problems with either the watchtower society itself, the publications, changing doctrine, incorrectly living their lives as a result of bad doctrine, the behavior of the boe and other related things.
i will share some of these things in several posts, because there are just too many of them.
the complaints that i hear from publishers and pioneers are many.
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TheListener
Did the older lady really drop the F word? If so she's more rogue than you know. -
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Reason of financial problems WTS
by Gorbatchov ina non-witness insider told me this week that the wts has financial problems.
that lead to halting down their building plans and lay off the special pioneers and.
bethelites.. the reason of the financial stagnation is beside some bad investments,.
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TheListener
The organization must cost a fortune to run. Just the paperwork alone for so many different countries. Plus all the supplies and maintenance for the many many properties. Why do we think they might be rich? They must spend a fortune managing what they own and figuring how to keep the whole thing moving forward. The more they buy and build the more it takes to keep it maintained. -
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A question
by JeffT inhas anybody ever written bethel and just flat out asked for an accounting report on the society's finances?
we all keep batting around speculation about the wtbs and money, and actual information seems non-existent.
what would they do if somebody asked for a financial statement?
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TheListener
I want to know where the money goes and has gone. My wife still donates and as a married couple that is my money too. Plus, I'm nosey and as someone who was raised as a witness with 99% witness relatives - I want to know about the money. -
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I miss my family so much. I thought I was over it but I have breakdowns every few months thinking about my family
by macys inas most of you know i have been shunned by my family for 2 years because of a photo posted on facebook of me kissing another girl at a party.
the matter was not dealt with fairly but it is over now and i am 100% certain that jdub org is a cult.
but i miss my family so much.
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TheListener
macys, I don't see anything wrong with going back to get your family back and then trying to fade. I do think it will be hard to get reinstated since you'll be frustrated knowing TTATT.
And Cappytan's question is right - will your family shun you if you fade? Some do and some don't.
I wish you all the best. It's totally unfair and disgusting that this religion splits up families. That shouldn't even be allowed.
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Is my friend on the way out of the organisation?
by The Rebel inwhen i left the watchtower i realised it was best to put friendships on hold.
however i mentioned to my best friend that i didn't agree with how they handled child abuse issues and that was one of the reasons i left.. anyway as i am fortunate and own two rental apartments and he is a plumber so we have kept in contact, in that i email him when i require his services and he sends me the invoice.
anyway i am now dissociated, but yesterday i emailed him about a pluming problem, and he replied.. " sorry we missed going to the indian ( this was a comment made about us having a meal together about 9 months ago, which i backed out of because i felt he was too indoctrinated and i had not disassociated myself) anyway his email continued:-.
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TheListener
I think not saying anything before going to a meal. At the meal just talk about regular stuff that long friends who haven't kept in close contact talk about. If he brings up witness stuff keep calm and listen. Don't unleash your apostate knowledge on him.
Pretty much what others have said.