Posts by TheListener

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Need Help - How do I refute this???

by HappyBlessedFree in

so i was talking with my husband about all the things the organization is doing ie.

hiding pedophiles, lying about what 1914 was etc.

so his response was that the nation of israel had times when they weren’t doing the right thing, but it was still gods chosen organization.. another topic we were talking about was disfellowshipping.

TheListener

This was the argument I used:

This was a discussion point I had with my wife. But, I think it is really better to not discuss doctrine. They cannot see the other side of an issue.

Prior to the outpouring of Jehovah's holy spirit his followers made all sorts of mistakes and had disagreements about what was correct, even the apostles (read the threads on circumcision). But, once the holy spirit was poured out that stopped. The organization claims Jehovah's holy spirit is active upon it, therefore they shouldn't have to change doctrine or make the mistakes like the Israelites made.

I wish you the best of luck.

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Noah 'warning the people'

by KW13 in

jw
friends

am i imagining this?at the kingdom hall we were told many times that noah warned the others about the coming flood and was ridiculed but actually there is no evidence of this in the bible!there is however evidence to the contrary.

matthew 24:37-39.

37 as it was in the days of noah, so it will be at the coming of the son of man.

TheListener

If the flood and Noah and the rest of it were real then...

Imagine how many people there may have been in the bible's preflood world. With their long life span and lots and lots of kids.

The WT CDrom has a reference to the preflood population which says something like it can't be known but it is likely less than exist today - well, what the hell that only means there could be between 8 and 5 billion people!

Dumb

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TV TRAILER: ‘Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath: The Jehovah’s Witnesses' Two Hour Special Event - A&E

by MaybeSo in

tv trailer: ‘leah remini: scientology and the aftermath: the jehovah’s witnesses' two hour special event - a&e, 9pm et/pt, tues, nov 13, 2018. https://youtu.be/yzdege5im90.

didn't see a post about it yet.

will you be tuning in?

TheListener

I'm gonna watch it.

Hopefully it will be informative and presented in a profession manner.

I doubt my wife will watch it. But me and the kids will.

Soon the cries of 'ohohoh we're being persecuted by the media!' will be heard at the KH. Hahahaha dumb sh$*ts.

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What’s the big deal with birthday cake?

by Addison0998 in

how strict were the jehovah’s witnesses you knew about birthday cake?

i knew a girl who saw a few pieces of cake in the break room at her work, and ate a peice, then found out later that it was left over birthday cake.

she felt so guilty and was scared about a bad impression she left on her work mates.

TheListener

Was allowed to save the cake or candy until the next day and then it was fair game. I was an adult before I had fresh birthday cake hahahahaha stupid bastards

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Something fishy

by I Faded Twice in

ok so just thinking it over here.

in the recent montana lawsuit wt had to show their net worth.

it came in at like 1.6 billion i think.

TheListener

You may be right about them hiding the money OrphanCrow.

When I was in I viewed all the leaders as sincere believers and since I've been out it is really hard to shake that feeling. I have a hard time getting myself to understand that there are shrewd businessmen at the helm of the organization and that they are not all true believers.

I guess I always sort of thought of the witnesses as a religion that went wrong and kept going wrong. I need to start thinking of it as less a religion and more of a business with lawyers and bankers and stuff. they have done a good job of hiding that part of the religion or business from the rank and file.

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Is attendance down in your location too?

by StarryNight9 in

jw
friends

i was commenting on another thread about how local kh attendance is down.

memorial attendance was also way down and the circuit assembly had hundreds less people than what is typical.

my jw family has even mentioned it.

TheListener

Wife's congregation is much smaller than it used to be. She even told me that the hall feels empty now. It's not empty but definitely less in attendance. I should drive by to check the parking lot during a meeting.

I've got relatives from the Midwest that told my wife, not me of course, that their meeting attendance has gone down a lot in the past few years. They're older and concerned their hall will be sold and they'll have to travel a lot farther.

I've heard a lot more witnesses are using the call in option and listening to the meeting. Probably depends on congregation.

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2018/19 new light

by Ray Frankz in

hi guys, long time without paying a visit to this site.

today i returned to check a 'gossip' that is running around in brazilian exjw forums.. they are stating that is almost certain they will make a big change in their doctrine maybe this year yet in the annual meeting.

they say people in warwick were commenting on this.

TheListener

I think they'd get more recruits if they let everyone parktake. The memorial is odd enough as it is but let everyone parktake and at least it seems a bit more normal.

I hope they DO NOT make this change. I would hate for any other people to be fooled by them.

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Mike and Kim updated thier Numbers and it looks like the Borg is watching.

by Crazyguy in

thier latest video they seemed to fix thier number issues and have made it look as though the borg only has about a half a million member now in the us.

also it looks as though the borg is watching because the borg has now made an adjustment on their website concerning their missing kh.

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