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  Major announcement, news, and video this upcoming Sunday in all kingdomhalls worldwide???

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  got a call from a relative that i should go to the meeting this sunday because something major to be announced.

  (they were told it has to do with branches closing down, missionaries being sent home, etc).

  i said it's probably money.

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  I wonder if my wife has been told there will be a special announcement after Sunday's WT. We were planning on going out of town for the weekend.
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  New member

  by New Order in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, i am a new member.

  i grew up in the jw religion; however i am not an active jw.

  have been visiting this site for about 3 yrs, and have become quite attached to it.

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  Welcome to the board New Order. You've had quite a life. I hope that you and your husband and son are happy and doing well. I'm so glad the JWs don't come by looking for your donations anymore. You are so much better off having them leave you alone. Please keep posting because you offer a great perspective.
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  Latest rumor - all WT construction "suspended", except for Warwick

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heard 4th-hand, but from a full-on believer, so not likely to be an "apostate lie":.

  apparently, at bethel's morning worship this morning, it was announced that all worldwide wts construction is "suspended" for an indefinite time, except for the new world headquarters at warwick.. also, the "relocation" of remote translating teams is also suspended.. finally, there will be a "worldwide" reduction in bethel personnel.. all this came to me in a non-english language, and,as noted, 4th-hand.

  so it is possible something may have been lost in translation and/or in the multiple steps between bethel morning worship & me.. but if true, it would be quite stunning.

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  LisaRose - Butt Smoothing - LOL (I needed that today).
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  Calm Down Everybody, We Will Know Soon Enough

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  seriously, they will change the midweek meeting ever so slightly.

  it is just repackaging of the same old stuff.seriously, we don't know if construction is halted for days, weeks, months, forever, or what.. we don't know if new kingdom halls will still go up, old kingdom halls will be closed and sold.

  they have laid off bethelites before and they will lay them off some more.

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  Oh man the dubs loooooove October!! and not for Halloween...
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  Is the WT SLOW-ly Changing the importance of the Door to Door preaching work to something more profitable?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  its been a couple of weeks since a new c.o.

  was appointed to the circuit and im starting to hear tidbits of his talks..

  one brother told me that in one of his talks he asked the question; .

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  Imho it would be no different that when the bookstudy as a separate meeting night was cancelled. Most dubs were very happy that they had another free night. I know that a lot of families in my old hall do not have a regular family night study. If the dubs were relieved of the door to door work they'd be happy to comply.
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  Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

  you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

  up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

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  Maybe I missed this but could you just ask her if she will ever want to have sex with you and what she feels you need to do qualify for sex? If the answer is 'be a god jdub' then you pretty much know what you have to do.

  Remember, both you and your wife deserve to be happy. It may work out that you can be happy together or it may not, but you both deserve happiness.
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  Need advice: Intimacy with my wife almost non existint because she considers me an apostate

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.

  you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.

  up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.

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  I don't know what the right thing for you to do is but you should try to imagine what your life could be like if you were able to somehow reconcile with her and really have a genuine marital relationship as well as imagining what it may be like if you divorced.

  Remember, the "truth" comes first, always. She knows you will never live through Armageddon so I believe she is limiting her exposure to pain and hurt by pulling away from your relationship. The witholding of sex is a way for her to make you see sense (her version) and return to J; it's the next thing in the arsenal since she realistically can't shun you as she would someone else.

  My marriage has ups and downs, right now it's down. So my advice may be a reflection of my mood.
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  Royal Commission National Redress Scheme. Average of $65,000 per victim, not including psychological fees and admin costs.

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the royal commission published it's redress report today.

  it is a 668 page document, but it is very interesting.

  all the recommendations they make are in harmony with what all other institutions will accept.

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  The organization is selfish and greedy so any money they pay out will hurt them emotionally which is great because that's how they hurt most of us.

  If it doesn't break them financially that's ok but the bad publicity is priceless even if its only local to Australia.

  I thought I read that the Australian government would be enacting legislation (the teeth) based on the findings of the ARC? Does anyone know if that's how it works?
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  The folly of Watchtower's theodicy. Or, why would an all-powerful and all-wise God need to justify his sovereignty through suffering?

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  watchtower says that evil and suffering exist at present to vindicate jehovah as being the only one qualified to govern; to bear witness to man's inability to govern himself independent of god and under satan's direction.

  the claim is made that the questions raised by satan regarding god's motives as universal sovereign can only be answered by allowing humans to see the evil and suffering that results when man lives independent of god's protection and direction.. watchtower and jws seem to think that this is the best theodicy in the world.

  but there are some serious flaws in it.. 1. such a theodicy suggests that all perfect and intelligent creation, up until the advent of adam and eve, did not know god and his ways well enough to be confident that his motives as universal sovereign are pure.

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  I really like those points Island Man.
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  I need some advice

  by SpunkedTeen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i dont think ill be able to leave the organization,you see i have no close friends in or outside the jws and my entire family is part of the cult,if i leave my mom and the rest of my family will be heartbroken and i dont want to be the reason they are hurt.

  im not particularly close to any of my family members but i still care for them.

  i could really use some advice because i have no one else to turn too..

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  TheListener

  Good luck SpunkedTeen. It's never easy but you were given really good advice here. If you feel like you are just too stressed out you should see if you can get some counseling or other professional advice. I think professionals can really help us work through tough situations while maintaining our sanity.

  Good luck!