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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

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  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Formerbrother, I read a lot of the thread but not all, it's really long. I never saw anyone discuss the post Sparky1 made on page 11 about the Seventh Day Adventists. They really do get the word out there. Do they go door to door, I don't think so, but I also don't believe the bible limits preaching to only a single method as I'm sure you know the witnesses agree with. Witnesses use multiple methods to reach what they consider right hearted ones.

  I'm glad you're here and hope you keep posting. I researched for a looooooong time before I was able to finally realize that what my family had believed for several generations was not what I believed. I remained an active witness during my searching period and it cost me a lot physically and mentally once I realized that I felt the witnesses didn't actually teach what the bible teaches.

  There are some fantastic older threads where this board discusses in great detail blood transfusions, idol meat, door to door witnessing, destruction of Jerusalem in 607, cross versus stake, disfellowshipping....well, you get the point. Dig deep for the spiritual gems.
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  Elder Mentioning an "Apostate Problem"

  by Simon Templar in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i bumped into a sister that i have known for at least 40 years or so.

  we were catching up.

  she and her husband have been in the truth for decades.

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  Why couldn't the GB just say the number is figurative but there are still two classes and only God knows who is heavenly bound and who is not.

  They can still say the figurative number indicates a smaller amount and not all dubs will be selected by God for the heavenly calling. As long as the number of partakers stayed relatively low compared to overall publisher numbers everyone would buy it. If the partaking numbers got out of hand they could have new light that all partake but still only a small number go to heaven. Just by separating partaking from automatic heavenly hope they could solve the issue (which they already do anyway by calling most partakers mentally unstable every year).
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  My life After Bethel Part 1

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the day i left it was pouring rain........i really screwed up, i found out the night before, as i was packing things up, that i had way under estimated how much stuff i had.

  i had two large suit cases (that i could barely shut the lids on) and a large army duffel bag.

  i would guess about 200 pounds of shit......my van was in rhode island with the engine out of it.

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  Awesome! Legal sex at bethel, I love it! And if you couldn't find a room available one of your friends would let you secretly crash in their room (if they had a cool roommate).
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  My Bthel Experince Part 19 The Last Chapter..(really) Bethel Overseers

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there were other people who either killed themselves or tried to kill themselves while they were at "the house of god.

  one person who did kill himself was richard wheelock, press room overseer ......he jumped out of a window at the watchtower farm one day.

  it seemed, he was never quite the same after his wife "willy" died.

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  Great series. I got called to the home overseers office once with my roommate and got yelled at for hiding dishes in our mini fridge and elsewhere and our stereo wires being messy. Right in the middle of the work day. How stupid.
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  Im sick of my life

  by BlackWolf in

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  2. friends

  sorry but i really feel like i need to rant right now.

  recently my dad was made an elder so my family has been doing a lot more "theocratic" activities lately.

  every morning i wake up and put on my itchy dress and stupid makeup and heels and then pretend that i love what i'm doing and that everybody is my friend when in reality i feel horrible and all the other teenage girls at my hall hate me for some reason.

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  I remember how hard it was to tell my wife that ibdidnt believe in the WTS and then to face my other family members. And I was a grown man with a family, job and car. I can't even imagine the stress you are going through. All I can say is feel free to vent here anytime you want.

  Try to find the small things where you can exercise some personal freedom and enjoyment. Your life has meaning and you deserve to be happy! You deserve to be happy!
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  United States baptism stats 1969-2015

  by the comet in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  whenever the new yearbooks come out, we all look at the figures and see the publisher increase never really matches up with the baptism figures.

  it never should match up as all newly baptized ones are already publishers, and may have been for many years.

  i, as an example, became an unbaptized publisher at age 11. i didn't get baptized until i was 17. .

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  Janusfulcrum, that info probably deserves its own thread.
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  United States baptism stats 1969-2015

  by the comet in

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  whenever the new yearbooks come out, we all look at the figures and see the publisher increase never really matches up with the baptism figures.

  it never should match up as all newly baptized ones are already publishers, and may have been for many years.

  i, as an example, became an unbaptized publisher at age 11. i didn't get baptized until i was 17. .

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  Janusfulcrum, they are actually shutting down LDCs? I hadn't heard that or about the meeting you mentioned in CA.
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  Why continue to suffer??

  by Tigerlove in

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  i occasionally come on this website because i have my eyes on a particular user.

  because of that, i end up reading a lot of people's post.

  although very interesting and hurt breaking, a lot of them are very strange.

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  TheListener

  Life is hard enough without being kicked by other people for personal choices.
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  New here

  by MarkofCane in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello and thanks to everyone for participating on this forum it has really been of much value, for those of you that post here know that your words are not lost you never know who is reading your expressions, lives are being changed and nonsense challenged.

  i’m not much of a writer so excuse my untrained writing style and grammar but i want to share my story to help anyone who is visiting here to see that we are real people, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters who have come here for answers, there is no agenda, just searching for truth.

  i hope my story will help others as so many here have helped me..

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  TheListener

  Wow! Welcome to the forum. An emotional release to be sure. I'm glad your found us and posted.
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  Any former elders brains I could pick?

  by BarelyThere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i posted in another topic a few hours ago.

  it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.

  i was dfed back in september for adultery.

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  TheListener

  I gave up judging others when I realized I wasn't walking in their shoes. Someone cheated, a marriage ended, ok let's move forward and help where and when we can. Frankly, I don't think anyone came out ahead in this situation.

  Disfellowshipping is an inhumane action.