Posts by truth-or-consequences

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Witnesses and the UN Declaration of Human Rights.

by gonzobear in

i'm researching a piece on the witnesses, as an ex born in witness now writer, and would really appreciate any thoughts.. as most of you all know the witnesses rely heavily on article 20 of the above act - everyone has the right to peaceful assembly and association.

but they also contravene several other articles of the act with their policy of disfellowshipping, causing mental distress to people who leave, they split up the family - a protected unit- and don't allow members to vote or to partake in national service, things protected by the act.

here's the link to the act, read it though and see if you can spot things witnesses aren't allowed to do that every human should be allowed to do freely - .

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I think that Canada will be the best country to provide an answer.

Canada's Charter is far different from the US.

An interesting quote (Justice O'Sullivan - Lakeside Colony of Hutterian Brethren v. Hofer (Manitoba Court of Appeal):

Much has been said in this case about freedom of religion as if the Charter of Rights protected religious bodies in their freedom to oppress their members. What the Charter, as distinguished from the American First Amendment, protects is not freedom of a religious group to conduct itself in whatever manner it pleases, but rather the freedom of the individual to liberty of conscience and religion. I see nothing in the Hutterian belief or practices which militate against liberty of conscience.

Europe seems to be all over the map in their decisions:

http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/lucy_search_1.cgi?sort=rank&method=boolean&highlight=1&query=%28jehovah%29&mask_path=/

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So I'm Minding My Own Business at McDonald's

by truth-or-consequences in

so i'm minding my own business at mcdonald's, reading bonnie zieman's book.. i was sorely tempted to read it at the adjacent table.. would have liked a co-hort to video the subsequent emergency evacuation.. .

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by the way, this was one of the nicest november saturdays ever, and they're wasting this precious time fraternizing.

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So I'm minding my own business at McDonald's, reading Bonnie Zieman's book.

I was sorely tempted to read it at the adjacent table.

Would have liked a co-hort to video the subsequent emergency evacuation.

By the way, this was one of the nicest November Saturdays ever, and they're wasting this precious time fraternizing. One can tell it's not the CO's visit.

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Can You Really Become Inactive Instead of DA'ing and Keep Your Family

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oz branch coordinator terrence o'brien opined a number of times at about 1:00:00 until about 1:15:00 of his testimony, that a dub does not need to da, they can become "inactive.".

i sent our beloved angus stewart my personal experience, as well as observations about official borg teachings.

(he replied in short order.).

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Oz Branch Coordinator Terrence O'Brien opined a number of times at about 1:00:00 until about 1:15:00 of his testimony, that a Dub does not need to DA, they can become "Inactive."

I sent our beloved Angus Stewart my personal experience, as well as observations about official Borg teachings. (He replied in short order.)

Has anyone heard anything supporting Terrence O'Brien's obvious BS?

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Why hasn’t someone gotten real pissed off yet?

by John Aquila in

i keep reading of some guy who is so upset at someone that he goes into a theater and shoots 20 people..

or a kid that is so mad that the other kids made fun of him that he goes to school and shoots a bunch of kids..

or some guy that was fired from his job and he goes back and shoots of bunch of his workers.

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It would likely depend upon the victim, the amount of harm done, and his/her desire for "justice." Does he/she feel that the cruelty of the Borg should be stopped?

"Revenge is a dish best served cold."

Congo Members, By-laws

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reading an old post.. not sure if it varies from state to state.. some jurisdictions require organizations (congregations, etc.

) to have by-laws that readily available, and also to maintain an up-to-date membership list, readily viewable by any member.

(readily - not kept at the secretary's house, but available at the hall after the meeting.).

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Reading an old post.

Not sure if it varies from state to state.

Some jurisdictions require organizations (congregations, etc.) to have by-laws that readily available, and also to maintain an up-to-date membership list, readily viewable by any member. (Readily - not kept at the Secretary's house, but available at the hall after the meeting.)

The old post ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/231734/congregation-laws ) indicates that the the boilerplate by-laws provided by HQ includes;

"Anyone meeting these requirements who is at least 18 years of age shall be designated a member of the Congregation."

If required by your state, they are registered with the state and available (usually for a modest fee).

Has anyone pulled the by-laws in their congo?

A few questions for the 18+ states.

If a resolution is voted on, with under-18's voting, should that resolution not be invalid?

If an under-18 cannot become a member, how can he/she be removed as a member (DF'd)?