i have a son who was disfellowshipped while suffering serious depression and who was not actively "sinning".. i feel this is outrageous and want to know how widespread the practice is.
please tell me what your experiences are, i am interested and want to try to get the brothers to factor this in, so we can stop losing people to depression.
Thnx witchywoman for your kind words and comfort
I believe some of the trouble I have is that I have been thinking for my self for years, and now I no longer except blindly anything I hear or
am told, I will watch out for myself (independant thinking).........
Tat ta (English for Bye bye)
frogit
i live near some really interesting stone circles derbyshire england, i love visiting this place, i even went late in the day when it was dark, just .
to get the feel of what the place was all about.
some people talk about the personality of each stone circle, strange!
CarHenge
Got it wrong
The white car in the middle is not facing the sunrise on longest day so all the other carts are out of line!
Ironic really when you thing of all the deaths caused by car crashes, just another form of sacrifices!
Frogit
i have a son who was disfellowshipped while suffering serious depression and who was not actively "sinning".. i feel this is outrageous and want to know how widespread the practice is.
please tell me what your experiences are, i am interested and want to try to get the brothers to factor this in, so we can stop losing people to depression.
My ramblings
I was a very active MS always saying yes to whatever assignment the elders gave me, I did it all, Field Service, P/Talks, group, TMS, Service meeting talks, the lot, and I shepherd my group. All this on to of bringing my children up, earning a living and also setting up a new trade.
I was wearing myself out, I was burnt out, and I asked the elders for help on many occasions, guess what? No help at all, just more to do.
I look back and feel this was too much for any person to do, my head was ready to blow just like a volcano but in the troof you not allowed to show you feelings as you are seen as a disrupter, belligerent or a weak person, I even was counselled for how I felt.
My whole week was mapped out for weeks ahead, there was no time for living, just theocratic stuff, this went on for ages, and what upsets me now is I didnt know what was happening to me, my mind was set do more, I never gave it a thought that I was driving my mind to madness.
When my depression got the better of me and could not cope because of years of abuse (from the gong), I was nearly DF'd, but had a Public reproof (staying over night with op sex (just to get away from it all), but no immorality). The elders promised to help me, guess what they only gave a token attempt at helping, at one time I was so distraught with threats and lies from my wife, I just cried and cried rolled up like a ball on the floor, I rang the PO for help, could you over a prayer for me, I asked, sorry too busy give so so a phone call, I did sorry Im busy, phone so and so, I got the same answer each time. BTW Im still waiting for a visit from the elders.
One day I will tell my full story, but now Im on my own trying to put my life back again, in this world you have to do it yourself (DIY), forget elders, forget the WT, they do not care, I even spoke to the CO about this and other wrongs within the elders, he showed little interest, did nothing.
Now Im on the fence, I love God, but how can I worship him?
I feel that there must be some loving elders somewhere, reading all your comments about the horrid unjust treatment at the hands of supposedly Princes in all the Earth, loving shepherds!!!!
frogit
i live near some really interesting stone circles derbyshire england, i love visiting this place, i even went late in the day when it was dark, just .
to get the feel of what the place was all about.
some people talk about the personality of each stone circle, strange!
I live near some really interesting stone circles Derbyshire England, I love visiting this place, I even went late in the day when it was dark, just
to get the feel of what the place was all about. Some people talk about the personality of each stone circle, strange!
Many things have been written about stone circles (or Henge as in )
One time I visited someone had left some fruit on the main stone, a bit like a gift for whomever?
I wonder about the ancient people that made this circle, what these people believed, what did they know about the cosmos, did they
know about God?
Each time I go there I wonder at what may have gone on over 4,000 years ago; oh I wish I had a time machine, just to see what went on.
Do you have places that you find fascinating?
frogit
have a read!.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/bse/article/0,2763,768641,00.html.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2169663.stm.
Have a read!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/bse/article/0,2763,768641,00.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2169663.stm
frogit
anybody know brent and jean smith?.
my wife carries the distinction of receiving a sympathy card, from them, due to my recent da.. word certainly is getting around.
Hi I know Brent & Jean.
Not seen them for ages tho, Brent was such a story teller, never could work it out if the stories was really true. They are a nice couple, Jean used to sit in the entrance bored out of her mind while Brent sometimes gave talks, shed heard it all before.
Jean was the only CO wife who was well, all the other CO wives had some sort of very rare illnesses.
frogit
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is this the sign of the beast???.
http://www.greaterthings.com/news/chip_implants/
I allready have one!!! Trouble is, it's stuck to my Visa card, It don't half cost me alot each month.
frogit
you guys and gals have to read this...it's hillarious!.
http://www.angelfire.com/ky/proclaimer/cat.htm
just wondered how many people this this is all true.
feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.
When doing Bible study, I have found that by reading, and comparing other translations, you do get a better picture of what may be the real flavor of what the writer was trying to convey.
If you dont have other Bibles available, go to the public library and check it for yourself. I have found the NWT to be a very good/accurate Bible translation.
When you think of it, the writings in the Bible are very old, and do we today fully understand all the nuances of ancient language?
If you consider the Bible important in your life. you then should really test it for yourself.
frogit
i stumbled upon a post made in dec 5, 2001 10:13, by hawkaw, where there are supposed to be two scanned images on this subject from awake!
- august 22, 1967.. the links to those pictures are now dead, but i would really appreciate if someone here could tell me what was said in them?
Is this scan from this Awake? this is not on the CD Rom.
brain size: g67 8/22 27
Frogit
