Posts by BONEZZ

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Is It Fair To Discipline Born-Into-It's?

by Englishman in

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a born-into-it teenager or maybe someone in their early 20's, gets df'd for an unspecified offence.

later the df'd person protests that df'ing is unscriptural and inhumane, only to be told "you knew the score, you knew what would happen, it's your fault".. but is it?

maybe it might be fairer for a converted person to be df'd for breaking the rules, after all, a converted person has joined the jw's willingly and has therefore accepted the witness rules.

BONEZZ

Englishman,

This hits home as I was born into it but my father (elder) was smart enough to never push. He always said it would have to be an personal decision. I studied with umpteen people and went thru questions at various times...saved many times by the fact that we would move and become inactive for awhile so I would get to start over. I always had a gnawing feeling in the back of my head that something was screwy but of course you just don't get to compare religions like normal people. I can see the look on my parents faces if I'd asked to study something besides society literature. Amazing is right to a degree, they do treat you better while you can be counted as a study, but eventually if you are in one congregation long enough, you start hearing the old line..."he's never gonna make the Truth his own." I think the secret is to move around a lot and always be a study. I always felt I was gonna be destroyed because I had not got baptised. I was one of those guys who wanted to see it all start and then get dunked. Of course, they scared me shitless by those talks that said the door would shut and it would be too late once the "Great Trib" got under way. They always compared to Noah's day and the doors on the Ark being shut. Hell, I still have nightmares.

Englishman..was that the '58 convention in New York? I was there too but only 7 years old. Still remember quite a bit though.

-BONEZZ

5

I have a dumb question....

by SpiceItUp in

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ok i have been reading and posting for a couple of weeks and love it here.

i noticed some terminoligy that i hadn't come across before when speaking about the jw's.

i get calling them the "borg" - i am a star trek fan (lol..i think its funnie) but i still cannot figure out why they are called "dubs".. can anyone explain this to me please?.

BONEZZ

SpiceItUp...From growing up in it, you discover that some people would call us J-W's (Jay-W's). It used to piss everyone off. No respect and all that...anyway I believe Dubs is just a shortened version of J-W's. I think it's perfect because a "dub" in the audio/video world, is just an exact duplicate of something else. Seems to fit them well.

BONEZZ

12

Never Date A... (funny)

by MrMoe in

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this is funny stuff.... i am an aquarius/pisces mix myself.... http://media28.fastclick.net/w/safepop.cgi?mid=10317&sid=349&id=285273&geo=0&len=9&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww.innerself.com%2fastrology%2fnever_date.htm&c=33.

aries: .

looking for a lover who's mature, gentle, thoughtful, considerate, and entirely unselfish?

BONEZZ

MrMoe...

Since I was born in October I can certainly see where you might be coming from....on the other hand I might need to reevaluate my own position...but certainly I can see your viewpoint....however I feel the need to ask a question or two....if that is okay with you....then again my own feelings are not fully developed on this subject so maybe I should....

-BONEZZ

"Being on the bottom isn't always a bad thing"

12

My dedication to all of you!!

by orangefatcat in

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this seems very fitting for me to do on my fifth hundredth post.

i have dedicated to all of you, who have listened to me through my ramblings, my silly stages, my serious side.

my emotional periods.

BONEZZ

OFC...Here's lookin' at you. Hope your next 500 are just as pleasurable.

-BONEZZ

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How many guys here wash the dishes?

by ashitaka in

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or do other chores?

any here archaic and expect the woman to do all of the work?

my mother taught me that women don't need our help, but we should give it anyway, to show our love.

BONEZZ

Maybe...but all da ladies say my underwear are clean enough to eat off of.

-BONEZZ

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How many guys here wash the dishes?

by ashitaka in

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or do other chores?

any here archaic and expect the woman to do all of the work?

my mother taught me that women don't need our help, but we should give it anyway, to show our love.

BONEZZ

Becoming single after being married for awhile forced me to learn some new tricks such as...washing my smaller clothing items with the dishes in the dishwasher. Now my underwear smell lemony-fresh.

-BONEZZ

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What is Faith?

by Mackin in

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when i was a 'dub, i beleived that faith was the hebrews 11 thing, but since i have put aside that way of thinking and no longer believe god or believe the bible to be anything more than a collection of human history and philosophy, i tend to think in terms of faith being no more than the dictionary definition: .

1 a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions.

2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to god (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust.

BONEZZ

Faith is...

Knowing your 1984 Hyundi can outrun the cops.

Knowing those condoms you purchased at the yard sale are in perfect condition.

Knowing that beautiful woman at the bar is attracted to your ear hair, not your money.

Knowing the Watchtower Society really is interested in you as a person.

-BONEZZ

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Is apostate an appropriate term for us?

by sleepy in

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how do you feel?do you like to be called apostate ?.

apostate just means: someone who renounces a former belief or principle.. to people who have never been witnesses it may not symbolise much.but to witnesses the word means a lot.in many of their minds it is synonymous with evil and perverted.. since it jw's who will likely call us apostate not others the term almost always has a bad or negative useage.. but it does identify us as people who have completely rejected the religion.. so is it good for us to use it or not?

BONEZZ

Maybe we're APOSTLE-TATES, since we're preaching for the demise of the Tower>

-BONEZZ

13

Found cheating saved his life

by Sirona in

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sirona .

edited by - sirona on 14 june 2002 11:11:12 .

edited by - sirona on 14 june 2002 11:14:37edited by - sirona on 14 june 2002 11:15:36.

BONEZZ

OOPS

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Why did Satan get to live so long?

by larc in

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now this question about satan and his longevity, is a farkel type question.

farkel, if you have covered this before, then i hope i did not plagerize.

well, anyway, we have this spirit creature who turns against god.

BONEZZ

Larc,

Terrific post but it calls for actual intelligent reasoning, not gullible accepting of mystical writings. I used to ask the elder who studied with me a similar question. I said, "Since the Organization has taught me to be rational and to reason out certain false doctrines such as Hellfire, i.e. why would a God of Love allow us to be tortured forever?...then why would a God of Love allow his children (many generations of) to suffer unspeakable desease, crimes, horrible deaths, etc for thousands of years just to prove a point to angels??"

If one of our "children" did a naughty, would we punish them & their progeny forever? No we are taught to give them the proper punishment asap. Some how come our heavenly father allows his children to be tortured? The only answers I ever got were alot of hem-hawing, harumphing and being told that he allowed his only son to die so we could get a 2nd chance, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense either when you have the means to set matters straight in the beginning and avoid all this misery.

-BONEZZ

PS. Yadrif, with your Brooklyn-based intellectualism, maybe you can field this one?