i've had several expereiences with ouija boards, some interesting, some disturbing, and as skeptical as i try to be i have to admit i have seen it personally say things and do things that i can not logically explain.
some say its your sub-conscience, some say its spirits, others say its demons.
i am just wondering if any of you have had experiences with the ouija board, what they were, and what you believe about them, supernatural or just another simple amusement?
I've had several expereiences with Ouija boards, some interesting, some disturbing, and as skeptical as I try to be I have to admit I have seen it personally say things and do things that I can not logically explain. Some say its your sub-conscience, some say its spirits, others say its demons. I am just wondering if any of you have had experiences with the Ouija board, what they were, and what you believe about them, supernatural or just another simple amusement?
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does this mean that they have less feelings, or that they were taught not to show their feelings, or they don't have any?
grew up being told "You want to cry? I'll give you something to cry about!" bam#$# I learned real young that crying meant you got hit.
Funny I was raised the same way, and my father was a so called good standing JW.
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hi all.. what is going on in your area with respect to hall building or remodeling?
there are lots of remodel projects around my area; it does not seem that the growth is here to merit the building.. my hall is going to sell it's building to generate the cash for a new building; the current one is a 20 year old quick build.. the thing is this: i don't know why they just don't remodel, or split the hall.
the excuse is that there are not enough elders; so now they are going to put up a completely new structure to house a large congregation?
I certainly agree with the above posters statement. The congregations in the western countries are definetly not growing at all. Where I am located they are actually shrinking slowly with most of the members being quite elderly and no real new members other then some long time members children who may have gotten baptized. As for newcomers from the territory, absolutely none for the last 5-6 years that I have noticed.
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hi scholar, .
i asked you a couple of questions but received no reply.
i actually was asking out of sincerity as i would like to know the answer.
Oh I find it funny how the harder people try to defend the Witnesses the further they truly expose their lies. I think Jw apoligists do the most damage to their own religion. You can't mask truth with lies and this goes for the false 607 date.
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over the period of time i've watched and read plenty on the watchtower society and their leaders, yet not too much on johannes greber.....no he wasn't the founder of gerber foods.....lol... so i did a little more research on him and he was a former catholic priest....here's what i found out......... who was johannes greber?
johannes greber was an ex-catholic priest who took it upon himself to translate his own version of the new testament.
to aid him in this endeavor, he contacted the "spiritworld" to reveal the proper remderings of the scriptures he sought.
Very informative information. I discovered this out too when I first began my research into the Watchtower Society. It is really interesting that as the Org. condems spiritism, yet they will go to such lengths to support their translation of John 1:1. Even to the length of qouting Johannes Greber's translation in support of their translation of John 1:1. This really was another eye opener for me. Glad you posted this for others to see.
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good news for people of all nations
but jesus said: "this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come."-matt.
good news.
Appreciate the hard work Blondie. I love how you show the little buzzwords and the subtle mind numbing techniques they use. Great review.
Oh when I read that review, God im so happy im not a JW and dont have to swallow that crap for an hour every sunday. Just reading it brought back memories of what it was like and made me want to puke. Oh freedom is worth every ounce of turmoil it took to get it.
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hi all.. what is going on in your area with respect to hall building or remodeling?
there are lots of remodel projects around my area; it does not seem that the growth is here to merit the building.. my hall is going to sell it's building to generate the cash for a new building; the current one is a 20 year old quick build.. the thing is this: i don't know why they just don't remodel, or split the hall.
the excuse is that there are not enough elders; so now they are going to put up a completely new structure to house a large congregation?
They were still offering loans in Canada apox. 5-6 years ago, im not sure now if they are anymore or not. Of course they had to go through reviews from the building commitee as to what was the best plan of action, whether it be a remodel or a build. The thing I never agreed with even when I was a witness was the charging of interest on the money loaned. When the society borrowed money from a congregation for its interest abroad it was always lent with zero interest. Now the society loans money, which initially was donated by the very members borrowing it back to build a facility which basically furthers the societies interests, the congregation got charged interest. I just could never justify the double standard and it really bothered me. Now though I realize that the Watchtower Society is just a business and it all makes perfect sence, but it still pisses me off that they do this to their members. Guess they dont have to follow the bibles advice of lending without interest to thoese in need.
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wt teach that jesus is jehovah1908: jesus1955: jesusaug.
1978: jehovahoct.
1978: jesusrevelation book pg.
I went into detail on this very topic on another recent topic of mine but Im not sure how to post a link. You can look it up if like. I dont have the qouted material you are mentioning though but I researched the topic myself in great detail about a year ago.
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ever hear of harold camping, president of family radio?
he's an elderly gentleman who periodically sets dates for the end of the world and pleads with people to leave their churches, claiming that the "harvest" has now commenced.
sound familiar?
At first they may seem like another fundamentalist, evangelical group - the difference will become apparent with exposure. They do not have an organization to run your life for you, but if you need someone to give you your answers perhaps this will hit the spot.
Uhhh No Thanks! Shall we say once bitten twice shy.
No more control for me, Now I call the shots. Ive had enough answers for a lifetime.
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romans 5:20 "now the law"..."by works of law no flesh will be declared righteous before him, for by law is the accurate knowledge of sin..." romans 3:20
romans 6:1,7,11,13,14 "shall we continue in sin"..."for he who has died has been acquited from [his] sin...likewise also you: reckon yourselves to be dead...but present yourselves to god as those alive from the dead...you are not under law..."
interesting how the scriptures are written with many things and in such a way as to sugjest ones may not be in the proper legal condition to 'present yourselves alive from the dead' where paul urged, 'reckon yourselves to be dead'.
Typical JW doctrines. They like to claim that they are not under law and that the law was done away with at the time of Jesus sacrificial death. But in deep contrast they are very much under law as half of their doctines and policies are derived from the old testament. They have many laws and policies for all sorts of issues, as they have a book compiled at bethel as too how to deal with all sorts of issues that may arrise, laws created in dealing with such issues. They have created their own system of laws, which rivals that of the Jewish Torah.
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