Posts by Ticker

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Tom Cruise had doubts about Scientology...

by rebel8 in

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...but he returned to it with renewed vigor.

surprise.. http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/335590p-286686c.html

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Yes... very interesting... same with Mormons... is there a connection somewhere?

Yes their is. lol Both are sects that were created by and following after a mans visionary beliefs on God and the bible. Both are high control groups, which I would class as cults due to certain features that coincide with bidermans chart of coercion. They both are pyramid structures with the pressure being put on members to recruit, recruit, recruit. No emphasis is put on the individual member but rather the individual becomes non important, but the financial and numerical prosperity of the corporate relgion as a whole is the all important main focus of the whole group. Ticker

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Tom Cruise had doubts about Scientology...

by rebel8 in

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...but he returned to it with renewed vigor.

surprise.. http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/335590p-286686c.html

Ticker

If you leave Scientology nobody comes to your house and invites you back with warnings about the End being "sooooo close".

I agree with you Terry, but if you try to expose the corruption of Scientology as some have attempted you will soon see their velvet glove come off the iron fist. They are even more ruthless against dissenters then the JW's are. They will attempt to ruin you through and through and even castgate you with threats of violence. In fact when the big takeover took place after L. Ron Hubbards death, they stormed his wifes house and made her sign over the corporate relgion under threats and heavy manipulation.

I do agree though that if you leave quietly they will leave you be, where as the JW's continue to try and spark the feelings of guilt by telling you how close armagedon is. The JW's never seem to quit until you either do one of three things;

Move away, Return to the "fold", or they end up disfellowshipping you. Even in the last case of being disfellowshiped they still continue to bother you once a years with trying to stir feelings of guilt. That is unless you were disfellowshiped for apostacy, then they seem to fully back away.

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Very Very sad. Typical Jdub Love

by Ticker in

i wanted to share this recent incident and it really pi$$es me off.

i called my grandfather yesterday who is a believing but inactive jw due to health reasons.

he is 83 and in very poor health and is alone since his wife died 3 years ago.

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I was as guilty as the next person, FS was the priority. Shame on me!

Don't worry I think we all were guilty of this at one time, just part of the process of being a witnesse and then coming to the realization that they aren't a faithful slave but rather a demanding master. Of course the elderly aren't important, or definenatly not as important as recruiting new prospects, which in turn are focused on recruiting more new prospects. The good old pyramid structure, very typical of cults. The old are just that to them "old and no longer useful". They shuffle them to the side, pay them token service or lip service, but in reality practice a whole different standard. Basically another double standard of the JW religion. They do what they do best and that is be hypocrites to their own beliefs.

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Does JWD fill a VOID in your life?

by ballistic in

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friends

does jwd fill a void in your life or does the internet in general do so?.

or do you think life is made up of lots of little voids we fill with tv, internet and so on.. what would you be doing if it wasn't for tv or the internet?.

is the issue how much time you spend on one thing?

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I don't know if it so much filled a void, I suppose you could say it did at the time when I was recovering from the JW religion. It gave me association with people who I could touch base with, people who themselves could relate to the things I was talking about and didn't look at me in a way as if I was out of my mind. Just try to talk to someone who knows nothing about the JW's and they would think you are either out of your mind or speaking another language. They know none of the witnesse jargon or experiences. So yes I would say in that sence JWD filled a void for me and really helped me along rather expediently in my recovery or at least I feel so, as it took me five years, but to me this is a good recovery time. Now I like to check in once in awhile to keep up on developments due to natural curiousity, and to help support others going through the same feelings that I at one time went through.

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Very Very sad. Typical Jdub Love

by Ticker in

i wanted to share this recent incident and it really pi$$es me off.

i called my grandfather yesterday who is a believing but inactive jw due to health reasons.

he is 83 and in very poor health and is alone since his wife died 3 years ago.

Ticker

Exactly Love has nothing to do with it. Just another damn typical cult.

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HARD HITTING-Jehovah's mum tragic act

by DannyHaszard in

jehovah's mum tragic act

adelaide confidential - aug 10 6:15 am

jehovah's mum tragic act .

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This is sick. This kind of crap has to be stopped. Somehow the government has to change the laws so that religous entities can't hold this kind of power over peoples lives through the enforcement of social sanctions. What a tragidy, and probably in the near future blood transfusions will be a-ok with the Watchtower just like organ transplants are now. Loss of life for nothing.

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Ever think about going BACK?

by jeeprube in

i haven't been to a meeting for 3 or 4 years now.

(it's been so long i can't really remember).

but lately i've considered going back.

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Not bloody likely. Unless it was to stir up some $hit, but like was already mentioned by Undercover I have better things to do with my time then to sit in boredom and wait for the oppurtunity to stir up $hit.

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Can anyone recommend a few spacey/trippy rock songs?

by Leander in

i'm working on putting together a rock compilation cd and i'm aiming for a really spacey/trippy type of vibe.

anyone have a few recommendations?.

1. the doors - riders on the storm.

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Primus - Southbound Pachyderm or Wynona's Big Brown Beaver

Two excellent trippy spaced out wierd but good music

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How can people like Def'd stick around here?

by ithinkisee in

how can people like defd be here and see all the blatant lies by the society and still accept it?.

607 bc and 1914 are based on complete falsehood, and are only borrowed from the adventists and millerites.

the trinity brochure took almost all of their sources out of context.

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vietcongregation LMAO Now thats funny! Never heard that one before but im going to remember that one, if I can stop laughing.

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How can people like Def'd stick around here?

by ithinkisee in

how can people like defd be here and see all the blatant lies by the society and still accept it?.

607 bc and 1914 are based on complete falsehood, and are only borrowed from the adventists and millerites.

the trinity brochure took almost all of their sources out of context.

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Oh well, I think in some ways it's good to have both elements on this board. It shows that people are begining to use their autonomy a little more, even if it is in a very basic sence. They are attempting to support their belief structure even in the blast of overwhelming evidence to the contrares of what they have been persauded to personally accept. It's not a bad thing and it actually shows they have character, but the key is that they may be open minded enough to accept the reality and the truth about the concepts they believe. If in the light of evidence they continue to support beliefs that have clearly beyond the point of doubt been proven false, then that equates to ignorance.

My hope is that ones like def'd and others in similar mindsets may accept the fact that they have been misled in their beliefs on the bible, and don't fall into the trap of ignorance by continuing to support thoese beliefs against all sound reasoning. I think everyone here no matter how prolonged their exposure to the truth about the Watchtower, cannot leave without their conscience being stirred into action. When you realize you were duped into a system of lies built upon lies to support lies, the amounts of lives destroyed, casualties, and victims due to man made doctrines, you cannot have your eyes opened and continue in support of such a corrupt system without your conscience bothering you continuously.

If one did continue to support such a defunked system then one would have to sell out their very being and become a mere shell clothed in Watchtower hypocrisy. I don't believe one could continue in such a mindless and unfullfilling course without feeling personal deficiency. Look at Ray and how it bothered him to the point of madness to even continue to accept or support such a contaminated belief system as put forth by the GB. I much the same was very bothered by what I discovered and could never accept or be part of the Watchtower mandate again.

I also believe that both sides being present on this board gives up ample opportunity to hone our anti-watchtower and corruption exposure skills to their higher levels of effectiveness.

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