The only other problem being is they dont admit to having direct vocal communication with God but rather they claim to communicate through holy spirit and prayer, and in being guided in their actions by God's spirit and Jesus direction.
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god is all knowing, god is all seeing, there is even a precedent that god is 'de facto' editor of the watchtower.
is there therefore any reason why god could not be the default second witness in the case of an abuse claim within the jw community?.
for this to stand up in an enquiry, the second witness (jehovah) would have to give evidence.
The only other problem being is they dont admit to having direct vocal communication with God but rather they claim to communicate through holy spirit and prayer, and in being guided in their actions by God's spirit and Jesus direction.
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god is all knowing, god is all seeing, there is even a precedent that god is 'de facto' editor of the watchtower.
is there therefore any reason why god could not be the default second witness in the case of an abuse claim within the jw community?.
for this to stand up in an enquiry, the second witness (jehovah) would have to give evidence.
Two witness rule is an adaptation from Deuteronomy 19:15 "No single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or any sin, in the case of any sin that he may commit at the mouth of two wintnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses the matter should stand good."
That is thier backing for the two witnesse rule doctrine and can also be found on www.jwmedia.org under their media alert films where they discuss the child abuse issue.
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'we feel we're doing god's will, preaching the good news to everyone,' doctor says of jehovah's witnesses.
'we feel we're doing god's will, preaching the good news to everyone,' doctor says of jehovah's witnesses.. .
that's how we feel about our message.
Yep that is so right Annie. And that cartoon sums it all up. They are not their to reason, they are their to aggressively persaude you into their beliefs. If you try to object and reason with your own beliefs, no matter how well you back up your beliefs, they will close their ears and the householder is always wrong. Their is no reasoning, its all BS to try and make an appealing public image.
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10- you vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of your god - jehovah.. .
9- you feel insulted and 'dehumanized' when scientists say that people evolved from lesser life forms, but you have no problem with the biblical claim that we were created from dirt.. .
8- you laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in multidues of demons, angels, cherubs etc.. .
Oh lets not forget the blowing of seven trumpets by God's Angels, accompannied by dramatic destructive effects, and later the vision of seven plauges and seven bowls of God's anger poured out in Revelation Chapter 8,9. This being solidly fullfilled in the unquestioning witness mind by seven resolutions passed at seven conventions during the years 1922 to 1928.
If only most witnesses today even had any knowledge of these supposedly proufound importatnt fullfillements of scripture. Most do not know they even existed or were in supposed fullfillment of Revelation chapter 8,9.
Or that an eight day general convention in Ceder Point, Ohio on September 1-8, 1919, was a notification to all the world [indicating] who it was that the returned Lord Jesus had found to be his 'faithful and discreet slave' class.
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for 'stumbling' jw's out of the organisation because of our posts on jwd that expose wt lies and deception?.
personally, i hope so.
how do you feel about it?
To answer this posted question, I think this sums it up for me.
I really dont think Jesus is going to mind if we free people from captivity in a high control group such as the Jehovah's Witnesses. I know when I truly felt I gained my freedom, I was ever so grateful for that and very bitter that I wasted years and years on a bunch of nonsence and pipe dreams. I wish I had been freed from it sooner but at least im grateful that Im free now. I lost my childhood and 25 to the JW's but least now I don't have to lose anymore. I think if anyone is to be held accountable it would be the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. They are the ones with the guilt and bloodshed on their hands over their manmade doctrines. They are the ones that have manipulated scripture to fit their circumstances, they are the ones who have made false decleration.
So, no I don't think we have a thing to worry about.
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for 'stumbling' jw's out of the organisation because of our posts on jwd that expose wt lies and deception?.
personally, i hope so.
how do you feel about it?
Happy Birthday fairmind.
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'we feel we're doing god's will, preaching the good news to everyone,' doctor says of jehovah's witnesses.
'we feel we're doing god's will, preaching the good news to everyone,' doctor says of jehovah's witnesses.. .
that's how we feel about our message.
I just wrote a letter to the editor.
Right on Kennesson I was hoping that they would get to hear both sides of the story, and that is a good point you brought up about dusting your feet off. I never thought of that before but its very true, instead like you stated they just fire up the legal counsel and storm into court.
So true also Danny, that little word "obey". To an outsider they would probably feel it means to obey God or Jesus, but we know much better then that. It is always promoted to obey the organization not God, or if they do say obey God, somehow it is always intertwined with the Governing Body. Good old buzzword meaning to totally submit to the Governing Body's reasoning without any question and too not even consider if they have any logical backing from the bible to support it. And if one does question then one is castagated as a proud, selfish apostate. Good old "ad hominen" attacks on ones with contrary views to the JW's, attacks made on total assumption and without a single word of the apostates side. Shall we say they are a bit biased and unfair in their reasonings? I would definetly think so.
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does jwd fill a void in your life or does the internet in general do so?.
or do you think life is made up of lots of little voids we fill with tv, internet and so on.. what would you be doing if it wasn't for tv or the internet?.
is the issue how much time you spend on one thing?
Thread Stalking LMAO Is that even possible.
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10- you vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of your god - jehovah.. .
9- you feel insulted and 'dehumanized' when scientists say that people evolved from lesser life forms, but you have no problem with the biblical claim that we were created from dirt.. .
8- you laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in multidues of demons, angels, cherubs etc.. .
Amazing that Def'd wrote that, but to tell you the truth sometimes the most fervent defenders and apoligetics of the Watchtower Society are thoese who are disfellowshiped. They somehow feel they need redemption to gain acceptance with their God again, and they do this by defending the JW organization. Org and God become one. Its funny how blind they can be, and how they can't seperate God and the Watchtower, but rather to most witnesses God and the Governing Body have become one entity.
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'we feel we're doing god's will, preaching the good news to everyone,' doctor says of jehovah's witnesses.
'we feel we're doing god's will, preaching the good news to everyone,' doctor says of jehovah's witnesses.. .
that's how we feel about our message.
Its biased and one sided. They sugercoat their religion to try to persaude others that their religion is as normal as any other. Only an insider would be wise to this slanted view, or one who even for a brief period has had association with the JW's. They aren't all about "love thy neighbour", their all about making recruits in a never ending process of making more recruits to pedel their magazines. How much true love do they really have for the one behind the door? Or are they rather merely their for time and to make magazine placements so their numbers look good at month end? I find this article very dishonest in the true representation of Jehovah's Witnesses.
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