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THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

by AndersonsInfo in

if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

have i ever misled you?

i'll answer that--no!

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By what day will the big announcement be released on here?

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why do witnesses call the new testament "greek scriptures"?

by in a new york bethel minute in

anybody know how the witnesses managed to demonize the expression, "new testament/old testament"?

my jw mother said "it's because when you call the hebrew scriptures the old testament, it makes them sound out of date, but they're really not because there is so much we can learn from blah blah blah blah blah blah".

any thoughts?.

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Old Testament New Testament is just to mainstream for the witness structure so they adhere to special inside language which they call the bible books Hebrew and Christian Greek scriptures. Old and New Testament refers to and essentially means old and new covenent. To the average JW they believe they are no part of this covenent so its not a big issue to the average rank and file witness.

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1093

THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

by AndersonsInfo in

if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

have i ever misled you?

i'll answer that--no!

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If they know its coming it obviously must be something they cant sugercoat to the masses or im sure they would have already taken that route. Must be something rather damning.

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THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

by AndersonsInfo in

if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

have i ever misled you?

i'll answer that--no!

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I would still count on a doctrinal change being thrown in. It's probably a combination of money and mass disbelief on the part of many as they grasp to deal with how the Organization could have mislead them. They have to drop 607bce and the blood issue someday, why not cut loose strings now, they eventually are going to lose many over disallusionment on these very issues. Could very well involve a legal case or cases as well.

It will be interesting to wait and see.

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1093

THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

by AndersonsInfo in

if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

have i ever misled you?

i'll answer that--no!

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Well I can't wait for the big announcement and when it comes and it is as incredible as said I will be sure to spread the news to all the fringe JW's I know of. Hopefully like you say it will help jar them free of the Watchtower.

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THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

by AndersonsInfo in

if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

have i ever misled you?

i'll answer that--no!

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Let me guess their completely abandoning any 1914 theology. Who knows but I agree with qoutes I dont think its going to be their downfall but it may help put another nail in their coffin. Look at how people sucked up, swallowed, and forgot "the creators promise that the generation who saw 1914" when it was abandoned. I feel they will do much the same no matter how radical the reformation in their doctrines and teachings. Still looking very forward to this news though.

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there may be many like defd

by justicehope in

jw
friends

i am a bit nervous making a reply.

i find it a bit challenging to gather my thoughts and express them in the written forum, but her goes!

i have been coming to this site for years.

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I think it's a good thing to not show a hostile attitude toword the Witnesses or the Organization, as hostillity rarely does much but reafirm to fringe witnesses that they, "must have the truth.", because of their Organization being the target of former members attacks. Although for one to sample all the evidence and still put unwavering hope in that flawed entity is beyond me. It's like trying to have your cake and eat it too, it's called riding the fence, essentially a hypocrite. This though is only meant toword ones who possitivelly have weighed out and seen the truth behind the Watchtower Organization and still continue to go out of their way to support it. Pherhaps even trying to use such information to their advantage in rising the Organizational ladder. This hopefully is to the exception as most do have a concience that would prevent such a hypocritical front on their part.

For the most part though, which I think encompasses most with genuine questions concerning the Watchtower Organization, is it possibly a measure ones take to not have to deal with the fact that their religious system is not what it has stated it is? Is it self denial? I've seen ones who have been represented with the truth about the Witnesse, acknowledge that "Yes they were misleading.", yet a week later they have resorted back to their previous stance of feverishly backing the Witnesses. I think much of it is induced by the indoctrinated guilt and they fear to take any real stand of their own, or use their own reasoning to its full, in fear of being eternally damned as an apostate.

It's a process in leaving any high pressure religion and it takes time and much effort to put the indoctrinated thought processes behind oneself. It is natural for ones freshly out of the organization to still hold to many of its beliefs and practices, even to second guess if their leaving the religion was the right thing to do. One must continue to research and reaffirm in their minds, to seperate the right from wrong. Then in time one can eventually slowly shed the cocoon that the Watchtower society has placed around its followers and truelly experience freedom. It is also highly recomended to seek psychological help in this process of exiting, preferably from a genuine counsellor or one who has much experience with the religion and in helping ones both physically and mentally exit such groups. All this coupled with time will eventually give you a sence of freedom that you could never enjoy under the control of the Witness Organization.

Welcome to the board Justicehope and hope you stick around to post some more.

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Virgin post

by wombat in

i've never posted anything on the net before.

just want to see if it works.

i left the wts in '73 - just couldn't wait those extra two years.

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Hi Wombat and welcome to the forum mate. You can discuss whatever you feel like here doesnt have to be scriptural, just whatever you feel like talking about.

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For sweetscholar: Is there proof that the Bible is inspired by God?

by seattleniceguy in

hello sweetscholar, .

as promised, here is the thread where we can discuss biblical inspiration.

in your post to me on the other thread, you made three main points: .

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El Don I would suggest you do some serious research here about the Jehovahs Witnesses before making a hasty decision to rejoin based on guilt. Take your time and carefully weigh matters first.

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JESUS AND JEHOVAH ARE ONE

by Jesus Witness in

how many true gods are there.

did not like hell or jesus being god and i'm sure quite a few other things too.

after all jesus did say:

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Jeepers I guess im too nice. I gave him the benefit of the doubt but he doesnt even bother to respond to peoples post and Im sorry Jesus Witness but that is damn rude.

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