I don't think she is at that point yet.Her husband is still a witness ,and goes thru phases of spirituality!He might hit the roof if she tells him what I said.I don't care though.I am ready for all comers.
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elders visit
by stopthepain inyesterday,i get a buzz from the doorbell,well i wasn't expecting anyone,niether was my roomate.well geuss who,2 elders i don't even know.they tried to introduce themselves and act all friendly.i said"i don't want to talk to you abot anything,before i could finish my statement,he tried to butt in and say something,i cut him off and said"listen,i don't want to talk to you about anything at all",in a firm tone.and shut my door.. i believe they have gotten wind of my activities in giving my family the truth about the truth.i believe they wanted to draw me into a trap so they could df me,i gave them no satisfaction.i know for a fact other my younger sisters friends know i can't stand the religion,and it has gotten back to the big bad elders.i could give a shit!they can't fool me anymore.again,this site has been a godsent,no pun intended.thanks to all my friends out in cyberspace,youve all hel[ped me out.. i also unloaded on my older ,depressed sister about the truth about the truth,she was not sure how to react,but i had to speak my peace.i can no longer pretend to co0ndone or keep silent,she has a young daughter,i had to at least warn her.and when i say unload,i mean unlo(ad!!
!i got into the jdubs history,lies ,changing doctrine,mental abuse,beth sarim,thier monitary holdings,thier guilt and scare tactics,thier exploitation of children,and ovwerall craziness that is the wtbts.i also kept calling it "the publishing company from brooklyn.
"i topld her i have no belief in that religion,and that i'm here for her if she needs help dealing with this.i don't know if it did harm or good,but she i feel it needed to be done.. .
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elders visit
by stopthepain inyesterday,i get a buzz from the doorbell,well i wasn't expecting anyone,niether was my roomate.well geuss who,2 elders i don't even know.they tried to introduce themselves and act all friendly.i said"i don't want to talk to you abot anything,before i could finish my statement,he tried to butt in and say something,i cut him off and said"listen,i don't want to talk to you about anything at all",in a firm tone.and shut my door.. i believe they have gotten wind of my activities in giving my family the truth about the truth.i believe they wanted to draw me into a trap so they could df me,i gave them no satisfaction.i know for a fact other my younger sisters friends know i can't stand the religion,and it has gotten back to the big bad elders.i could give a shit!they can't fool me anymore.again,this site has been a godsent,no pun intended.thanks to all my friends out in cyberspace,youve all hel[ped me out.. i also unloaded on my older ,depressed sister about the truth about the truth,she was not sure how to react,but i had to speak my peace.i can no longer pretend to co0ndone or keep silent,she has a young daughter,i had to at least warn her.and when i say unload,i mean unlo(ad!!
!i got into the jdubs history,lies ,changing doctrine,mental abuse,beth sarim,thier monitary holdings,thier guilt and scare tactics,thier exploitation of children,and ovwerall craziness that is the wtbts.i also kept calling it "the publishing company from brooklyn.
"i topld her i have no belief in that religion,and that i'm here for her if she needs help dealing with this.i don't know if it did harm or good,but she i feel it needed to be done.. .
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BAS-honestly,i'm trying to save whats left of my family.If they shun me its thier loss,but if I can save my 3 sisters,13,19,and 25,It is all worth it.I have already helped my brother,20 .I don't care about my parents in this regard,they have made thier own bed,now they have to lie in it.
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elders visit
by stopthepain inyesterday,i get a buzz from the doorbell,well i wasn't expecting anyone,niether was my roomate.well geuss who,2 elders i don't even know.they tried to introduce themselves and act all friendly.i said"i don't want to talk to you abot anything,before i could finish my statement,he tried to butt in and say something,i cut him off and said"listen,i don't want to talk to you about anything at all",in a firm tone.and shut my door.. i believe they have gotten wind of my activities in giving my family the truth about the truth.i believe they wanted to draw me into a trap so they could df me,i gave them no satisfaction.i know for a fact other my younger sisters friends know i can't stand the religion,and it has gotten back to the big bad elders.i could give a shit!they can't fool me anymore.again,this site has been a godsent,no pun intended.thanks to all my friends out in cyberspace,youve all hel[ped me out.. i also unloaded on my older ,depressed sister about the truth about the truth,she was not sure how to react,but i had to speak my peace.i can no longer pretend to co0ndone or keep silent,she has a young daughter,i had to at least warn her.and when i say unload,i mean unlo(ad!!
!i got into the jdubs history,lies ,changing doctrine,mental abuse,beth sarim,thier monitary holdings,thier guilt and scare tactics,thier exploitation of children,and ovwerall craziness that is the wtbts.i also kept calling it "the publishing company from brooklyn.
"i topld her i have no belief in that religion,and that i'm here for her if she needs help dealing with this.i don't know if it did harm or good,but she i feel it needed to be done.. .
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thanks for the reply.Yes ,my sister is in the troof,but would be considered very weak.She was force3d to get married at 19 to some moron.I still can't believe how shortsighted my parents were when getting involved in the borg.I feel my family has been stripped from me by a book company disguised as a religion.My sister is severely depressed and unhappy in her marriage.But now thier is a beautiful child involved,and she can't get out.She told me she has trouble getting out of bed everyday,she has no friends,she sounded so sad,I was hoping for her to know that I empathize with her,and not make her feel like she was to blame for years of psycological abuse.I want her to divorce him and move on with her daughter,but the religions hold is strong.I HATE THE4 WTBTS.THEY DESTROY FAMILIES,THEY KILL PEOPLE SLOWLY.My sister isw an attractive 26 year old woman,whos had the life sucked right out of her,trapped mentally and physically.
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My Prediction: If You Don't want To Be A Witness----You've Disassociated
by minimus ineventually, i believe that if an inactive person refuses to talk to elders, stops all meetings and service and might create any possible problem to the local congregation, that they might be loopholed into showing themselves as having "disassociating" themselves.
it would be an easy way to get rid of deadweights that can cause more harm than good in the congregation.
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stopthepain
this is thier last resort to silence,at least in person,us apostates.........apostates,hahaha
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elders visit
by stopthepain inyesterday,i get a buzz from the doorbell,well i wasn't expecting anyone,niether was my roomate.well geuss who,2 elders i don't even know.they tried to introduce themselves and act all friendly.i said"i don't want to talk to you abot anything,before i could finish my statement,he tried to butt in and say something,i cut him off and said"listen,i don't want to talk to you about anything at all",in a firm tone.and shut my door.. i believe they have gotten wind of my activities in giving my family the truth about the truth.i believe they wanted to draw me into a trap so they could df me,i gave them no satisfaction.i know for a fact other my younger sisters friends know i can't stand the religion,and it has gotten back to the big bad elders.i could give a shit!they can't fool me anymore.again,this site has been a godsent,no pun intended.thanks to all my friends out in cyberspace,youve all hel[ped me out.. i also unloaded on my older ,depressed sister about the truth about the truth,she was not sure how to react,but i had to speak my peace.i can no longer pretend to co0ndone or keep silent,she has a young daughter,i had to at least warn her.and when i say unload,i mean unlo(ad!!
!i got into the jdubs history,lies ,changing doctrine,mental abuse,beth sarim,thier monitary holdings,thier guilt and scare tactics,thier exploitation of children,and ovwerall craziness that is the wtbts.i also kept calling it "the publishing company from brooklyn.
"i topld her i have no belief in that religion,and that i'm here for her if she needs help dealing with this.i don't know if it did harm or good,but she i feel it needed to be done.. .
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stopthepain
Yesterday,I get a buzz from the doorbell,well I wasn't expecting anyone,niether was my roomate.Well geuss who,2 elders I don't even know.They tried to introduce themselves and act all friendly.I said"I don't want to talk to you abot anything,before I could finish my statement,he tried to butt in and say something,I cut him off and said"listen,I don't want to talk to you about anything at all",in a firm tone.and shut my door.
I believe they have gotten wind of my activities in giving my family the truth about the truth.I believe they wanted to draw me into a trap so they could df me,I gave them no satisfaction.I know for a fact other my younger sisters friends know I can't stand the religion,and it has gotten back to the big bad elders.I could give a shit!They can't fool me anymore.Again,this site has been a godsent,no pun intended.Thanks to all my friends out in cyberspace,youve all hel[ped me out.
I also unloaded on my older ,depressed sister about the truth about the truth,she was not sure how to react,but I had to speak my peace.I can no longer pretend to co0ndone or keep silent,she has a young daughter,I had to at least warn her.And when I say unload,I mean UNLO(AD!!!I got into the jdubs history,lies ,changing doctrine,mental abuse,beth sarim,thier monitary holdings,thier guilt and scare tactics,thier exploitation of children,and ovwerall craziness that is the WTBTS.I also kept calling it "the publishing company from brooklyn."I topld her I have no belief in that religion,and that I'm here for her if she needs help dealing with this.I don't know if it did harm or good,but she I feel it needed to be done.
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Then and now - sports
by larc inearlier, i wrote, "then and now" on military service and dating practices .
onacruse and alanf encouraged me to do this.
i am 64, so i really do know the religion of the 40's and 50's.
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stopthepain
I found the org was easier on girls when it came to organized sports.I was robbed of any athletics as well.It was the only thing I was even a little good at.All those doors slammed shut in my face,no pun intended,for what,to serve a publishing company,in a family that was so far from loving,I have a hard time with this as well.
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Gas prices & JW Conventions/Field Service
by doinmypart inwith gas prices forecasted to reach $2.50 in the u.s. do you think this will impact the district conventions this summer?i hope that either fewer will travel to the conventions,and those that do attend will donate less money to the wts.. and what about field service?
i realize hard-core jws will continue in the "ministry", but in my area we have a lot of driving territory.
not many are willing to drive, they prefer to stay close to the kh and work shorter periods rather than spend a lot of money filling up their gas tanks.. in other countries where gas prices are higher than u.s. prices perhaps people are used to it, but do you think it has a bearing on jw activity?
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stopthepain
Its funny this topic should come up,I was just remembering how as a child ,I would go to providence civic center.It was about 45 minutes from boston,and in general,most people did not have to pay for a hotel.It was alot cheaper on gas as well.Then,all of a sudden,the DC is going to be held in Amherst ,MA.This put a much heavier load on families.It was a 2 1/2 hour drive,way out in the stix.Why?Money.Did the billion dllar corporationj even think of thier faithful "sheep",hell no.I wonder how much they saved to inconvienence thousands of people,then have the balls to tell you wich hotel to stay at.How much 10,000 grand total,how little would they cut your balls off for.I think howm my family could have spent that time and money on a camping trip,amusement park,movie and dinner ,anything except be brainwashed for 4 days in the summer heat!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Watchtower Jan,15 2006.??????
by integ infrom watchtower jan 15 2006.
" another fine example for our youths is that of 4 year old "jessica", who wrote to the society to express appreciation for the faithful slaves' counsel regarding what to do if one is tempted to read any of the "poison" of apostate literature; "i am writing to you dear brothers to express my sincere, heartfelt appreciation to those of you entrusted with the administration of carrying out our master jesus' spiritual directive to supply us with our 'food at the proper time'.
as a young one, it is sometimes difficult to resist the great deceiver: satans' crafty acts.
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stopthepain
I knew it was a joke,still reminds me what I was taught.
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Losing faith in the organization
by parakete ini have been a jw for more than 20 years, but during these past few years i have come to realize that some of the elders and regular publishers are very hypocritical and insensitive.
they have done things that really disgust me.
tare so arrogant that they cannot take any criticism form you.
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stopthepain
welcome parakete!
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What is it all about? This life.
by dh indo you ever have those days, weeks, months, or even years where you just feel like your entire existence is completely pointless, when time has shot by and you feel like you have done none of the things that you set out to do so many years prior.
when you feel like you have been standing still forever.. you work your routine and live your life, maybe have some friends, but when you go to sleep at night you still feel like there is nothing, no point or reason or meaning for any of it, like life is a void, and all your actions, feelings and everything about you is simply designed to distract you from the fact that there is nothing, and if you're lucky you're so distracted that you never notice it at all.
it's like some insane cylce and you can never break it, no matter what you do or how you try.
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stopthepain
I agree with DH on that one.Life does become like that.