If jesus was 30 when he was babtized,and jw's follow jesus example,then why would anyone encourage someone of your age to make a life long desicion like that.I can say this becuase I was babtized at 12,and have regretted it for manyu years now.Remember,you are a good person,and you don't need to be babtized to prove you love god or are a good person.I hope you reconsider,enjoy your youth,and don't squander it on that religion. STP
stopthepain
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Hello
by Amionne ini just joined here so i'm not completely familiar with the forum code.
well, i'm going to be baptized in less than a month and i was wondering if i can find any friends among my peers or anyone around my age.
you see, my congregation was split up almost three years ago.
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Apologies for JW shunning
by greendawn inyou disassociated or got disfellowshipped and the jws were shunning you.
but then some of them went down the same road as you later.
did they then approach you as ex-jws and apologise for the way they had treated you, and what exactly did they have to say?
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stopthepain
I have apologized to my friends.I explained how I was taught to judge.They basically just feel bad of what I went thru.
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What do I rebel for?
by tsunami_rid3r ini rebel for my right to believe in what i want to believe in.
not to buy drugs or steal.
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stopthepain
thats a good reason to rebel.
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Naughty children
by Ellie in.
i heared something the other day that made me sick.. apparentely its been brought out in a talk recently that children are becoming more and more imperfect due to us being right at the end of the system.. i was told that the witnesses are saying that this generation of kids being born have a natural bad streak that makes them so willfull and disobedient.. i don't know what they are saying should be done about it but i imagine they are probably encouraging harsher discipline.. the mind boggles!
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stopthepain
Children pay the hardest price in all this.A foolish adult that chooses to be told how to live thier life is one thing.To force your kids into this folish way of life should be illegal.As much as I feel i've come to grips with it,a day doesn't go by when I don't feel like it has effected me permanantley.The 1 day brainwashing is today,and it disaapoints me that my family is still associated with this bs.
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My relationship has come to an end because of JW brainwashing
by MM090503 ina few of you may remember when i came to this site back in sept. i was seeking advice about my bf who had been studying with jw.
well i hate to say it but they won.
after being together almost 2yrs we broke up.
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Sorry to hear it Meg.I was your old BF at one time.My parents hated the only girl who ever gave a shit about me because she wasn't a witness.They all suck.I hope your ex finds out what a cro9ck it all is,and he'll see what he missede out on.
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What was your breaking point?
by soundbox_guy inokay, i'm new as you all probably know, so my question may have been discussed several times in the past.
i'm just curious as to when some of you came to the conclusion that enough was enough and that you didn't want to attend the meetings anymore or not be a jw.
was it in field service, at home, at the hall?
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stopthepain
I didn't really snap,they just wore me down physically, mentally,and emotionaly.After which I just slowly got more and more f*cked up.
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Embarrassed By Parents
by chris1525 inhopefully this will be a topic that gets you thinking and many persons will have funny stories to tell.
apologies if it's been done before but i'm new here.. .
my dad once gave a talk directed at the young persons in the cong.
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stopthepain
When I was in 9th grade,me and my friends where making a video on earthquakes.Mty friends came to my house to film some of it,bad mistake.My mom started forcing us to read the part of mathew where it says "earrthquakes in on place after another".I was so embarrassed.She would't let us continue until that was in the video.What a loony.
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Is age an excuse to hold back?
by stopthepain in.
a few times me and my family have had it out about the cult,and my parents{especially my mom}who are now 50,get all craxzy sometimes.she almost acts like she's physically sick,or haveing a heart attack or something when things get heated.now i understand sheis emotional to begin with,thats what got her into this crap .but is all these factors a reason to hold back feelings?i often find myself tip-toeing around how i talk to her.i feel the fanatic state they kept thier kids(especially us o0lder 3 of 5}really had detrimental effects on us.it's not so much of what they believed,but how they held us kids back from normal growth.i don't want to make her feel terrible,but sometimes it's hard not to say things.she still clings to her meeting on sunday,and basic principlkes of the bible,but i at times feel betrayed because of her cntinuing to support that reloigion.i guess you just have to take it as comes.has this happened to anyone else?sometimes i care,sometimes i don't.i want my parents to know exactly how wrong the way they raised me was.i guess it was worse because i was so trusting.at a few times in my life,i actually beli9eved.when the rug got pulled out for me,i was left emotionally scarred.it is very difficult for me to forgive and forget.it's just the more you think about how ridicoulous there way of raising children was,the more angry i get.. its my little brothers 21 birthday tonight,and we are all going out to eat and have a few drinks{but it's not a birthday party}.i couldn't do crap in all my childhood.they taught me to hate.they used warped scare tactics on young children.they held me back socially in everyway.they caused,thru that cult,soooooo much pain,that still lingers today.will i ever truly forgive and forget,i dont think so,but thier age may spare them my full disdain.its a fine line i tread with my parents,one between love and hate.. should age matter when it comes to confronting people on this subject,one that runs deep for many of us children of the watchtowers 1980's /early 90's pinnacle of fanatisism?stp
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thanks for your replies.
Garybuss-aalthough I may take you up on that from time to time,it just aint the same.
Good call EF!
BluesBro-Could it be I want them to feel the pain I feel they put me through.As the years wind down for them,I know the last thing they want to hear is how bad they f*cked up with me.
As far as my dad goes,he's of the attitude that he did almost nothing wrong,which pisses me off bigtime.But I work with him,sometimes in close quarters,and I make good money,and he has seniority at our job.I kind of shut up just to keep from ruffling any feathers at work.One time he said,"yeah ,I probly should have let you play football"like that was the only thing that pissed me off.He has also said "at least you wern't molested" or sarcistically say"yeah,I'm a horrible parent ,I know" .Comments like that burn me.My mom has genuinly apologized,but still clings to it,and encourages my sisters and little niece to be a part of it.They have no clue of how I feel about myself,and don't want to know,becuase alot of it in my opinion,stems from the cult.
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Is age an excuse to hold back?
by stopthepain in.
a few times me and my family have had it out about the cult,and my parents{especially my mom}who are now 50,get all craxzy sometimes.she almost acts like she's physically sick,or haveing a heart attack or something when things get heated.now i understand sheis emotional to begin with,thats what got her into this crap .but is all these factors a reason to hold back feelings?i often find myself tip-toeing around how i talk to her.i feel the fanatic state they kept thier kids(especially us o0lder 3 of 5}really had detrimental effects on us.it's not so much of what they believed,but how they held us kids back from normal growth.i don't want to make her feel terrible,but sometimes it's hard not to say things.she still clings to her meeting on sunday,and basic principlkes of the bible,but i at times feel betrayed because of her cntinuing to support that reloigion.i guess you just have to take it as comes.has this happened to anyone else?sometimes i care,sometimes i don't.i want my parents to know exactly how wrong the way they raised me was.i guess it was worse because i was so trusting.at a few times in my life,i actually beli9eved.when the rug got pulled out for me,i was left emotionally scarred.it is very difficult for me to forgive and forget.it's just the more you think about how ridicoulous there way of raising children was,the more angry i get.. its my little brothers 21 birthday tonight,and we are all going out to eat and have a few drinks{but it's not a birthday party}.i couldn't do crap in all my childhood.they taught me to hate.they used warped scare tactics on young children.they held me back socially in everyway.they caused,thru that cult,soooooo much pain,that still lingers today.will i ever truly forgive and forget,i dont think so,but thier age may spare them my full disdain.its a fine line i tread with my parents,one between love and hate.. should age matter when it comes to confronting people on this subject,one that runs deep for many of us children of the watchtowers 1980's /early 90's pinnacle of fanatisism?stp
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stopthepain
A few times me and my family have had it out about the cult,and my parents{especially my mom}who are now 50,get all craxzy sometimes.She almost acts like she's physically sick,or haveing a heart attack or something when things get heated.Now I understand sheis emotional to begin with,thats what got her into this crap .But is all these factors a reason to hold back feelings?I often find myself tip-toeing around how I talk to her.I feel the fanatic state they kept thier kids(especially us o0lder 3 of 5}really had detrimental effects on us.It's not so much of what they believed,but how they held us kids back from normal growth.I don't want to make her feel terrible,but sometimes it's hard not to say things.She still clings to her meeting on sunday,and basic principlkes of the bible,but I at times feel betrayed because of her cntinuing to support that reloigion.I guess you just have to take it as comes.Has this happened to anyone else?Sometimes I care,sometimes I don't.I want my parents to know exactly how wrong the way they raised me was.I guess it was worse because I was so trusting.At a few times in my life,I actually beli9eved.When the rug got pulled out for me,I was left emotionally scarred.It is very difficult for me to forgive and forget.It's just the more you think about how ridicoulous there way of raising children was,the more angry I get.
Its my little brothers 21 birthday tonight,and we are all going out to eat and have a few drinks{but it's not a birthday party}.I couldn't do crap in all my childhood.They taught me to hate.They used warped scare tactics on young children.They held me back socially in everyway.They caused,thru that cult,soooooo much pain,that still lingers today.Will I ever truly forgive and forget,I dont think so,but thier age may spare them my full disdain.Its a fine line I tread with my parents,one between love and hate.
Should age matter when it comes to confronting people on this subject,one that runs deep for many of us children of the watchtowers 1980's /early 90's pinnacle of fanatisism?STP
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blow out at kingdumb hall build today
by johnny cip inthey are adding a second floor to this hall that they have had for at least 40 years.
in gunhill rd bronx new york city.
i started by asking dumb questions .
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good job jonny cip.Who cares if there stupid.Anyone telling me at least one of the cults zombies did't think about what was said.That may have been there only chance to hear the real truth about the truth.