I am constantly thinking about moving far from here.But there are a small few people who I don't want to leave.Plus,thanks to the Jdub school of thought,I never finished 10th grade.Not to many employers that pay well want a uneducated bum.Thank goodness for organized labor,otherwise I'd have nothing.
stopthepain
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Having a hard time leaving? Here's what worked for me:
by marked inmoving.. move away from the situation, if at all possible.
have a job offer in another state/province/country?
need to go to school elsewhere?
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stopthepain
life without end at last was always in my opinion,the most embarrassing of all the songs.I picture them singing it ,and I think of a group of mindless,emotionally screwed up zombies.
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Watchtower/83/3/1/p.25-Says Opposers Believe God's Spirit Can Direct!
by Voyager insays-quote: under the heading of (opposers):.
16 consider some of the other "twisted things" used to mislead god?s people today.
on occasion opposers will question the various teachings that jehovah?s people hold in common.
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unreal!!!!!!!!
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just more b.s.
by stopthepain ini just got off the phone with a elder friend of mine.he's one of those borderlline elders who doesn't shun me.i called him to ask about a family matter that he knew about.the conversation soon degenarated into an aregument.i asked "where does it say in the bible to brainwash children and send them door to door to sell magazines.
" his reply was "bring your children up in the mental regulating of jehovah" and "jesus gave us a command to preach,and we should show are children that".i'm really heated right now.i'm amazed how this religion has an answer for everything,always have to be right.couldn't just say,"yeah ,maybe a child should grow up first ,then choose if they want to ebarrass themselves,oops,i mean preach.
"i hate that religion,with every fiber in me.more of the same bullcrap.
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this has really only cemented things in my mind,this whole conversation.I now know why I am the way I am.This was a demented conversation.They are brainwashed.No one can tell me otherwise.they are mostly robots,trained to defend.I am thankful this conversation happened,never has it been so clear.
this elder is a man I conmsider almost a second father.I don't want to slander deface this man in anyway,but the way the conversation went,I truly pity him.He is a raised JW,he is a great guy,but he firmly believes in the org,no hint of any reasoning.The org was 1000% right.The last statement made about the org was"I hope you find what your looking for"in a very condescending tone.I am a mans man,and I felt ready to cry.It made me mad and sad all at the same time.The emotion I felt tonight changed me..
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What was your favorite thing about service?
by Dustin ini used to love break time.
especially if it was afternoon service, and we stopped at taco bell.
i used to be damn good at eating tacos in the car without spilling anything.
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stopthepain
i hate service,the religion ,the brainwashed morons in it,my parents for being so naive...............shit,why ????????????/
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just more b.s.
by stopthepain ini just got off the phone with a elder friend of mine.he's one of those borderlline elders who doesn't shun me.i called him to ask about a family matter that he knew about.the conversation soon degenarated into an aregument.i asked "where does it say in the bible to brainwash children and send them door to door to sell magazines.
" his reply was "bring your children up in the mental regulating of jehovah" and "jesus gave us a command to preach,and we should show are children that".i'm really heated right now.i'm amazed how this religion has an answer for everything,always have to be right.couldn't just say,"yeah ,maybe a child should grow up first ,then choose if they want to ebarrass themselves,oops,i mean preach.
"i hate that religion,with every fiber in me.more of the same bullcrap.
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stopthepain
I just got off the phone with a elder friend of mine.He's one of those borderlline elders who doesn't shun me.I called him to ask about a family matter that he knew about.The conversation soon degenarated into an aregument.I asked "where does it say in the bible to brainwash children and send them door to door to sell magazines." his reply was "bring your children up in the mental regulating of jehovah" and "Jesus gave us a command to preach,and we should show are children that".I'm really heated right now.I'm amazed how this religion has an answer for everything,always have to be right.Couldn't just say,"yeah ,maybe a child should grow up first ,then choose if they want to ebarrass themselves,oops,I mean preach."I hate that religion,with every fiber in me.More of the same bullcrap.
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seeking help
by stopthepain ini have never sought out proffesional help.i guess the way i am is part of that stubborn old school mentality of"i don't need any help".i think i can fight through alot of my feelings.as a raised,insecure,unhappy,negative ex jw child,do members on this forum think someone such as myself should seek psycological help(even if yes,why?
)why can't i fully move on?does just vocalizing these issues help?.
i know the answer,but i'm afraid to deal with it.i guess i'm just having a bad day.i'm glad i have this meesage board .youve all been great,sorry to bother with my pitifull emotions,.
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stopthepain
thanks everyone!!I have been working some long days and couldn't reply sooner......Yeah,i'm still alive.I haven;t taken any steps towards help yet.Hopefully soon ,when I get my insurance back.Thanks for listening and responding.
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seeking help
by stopthepain ini have never sought out proffesional help.i guess the way i am is part of that stubborn old school mentality of"i don't need any help".i think i can fight through alot of my feelings.as a raised,insecure,unhappy,negative ex jw child,do members on this forum think someone such as myself should seek psycological help(even if yes,why?
)why can't i fully move on?does just vocalizing these issues help?.
i know the answer,but i'm afraid to deal with it.i guess i'm just having a bad day.i'm glad i have this meesage board .youve all been great,sorry to bother with my pitifull emotions,.
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stopthepain
I have never sought out proffesional help.I guess the way I am is part of that stubborn old school mentality of"I don't need any help".I think I can fight through alot of my feelings.As a raised,insecure,unhappy,negative ex Jw child,do members on this forum think someone such as myself should seek psycological help(even if yes,why?)Why can't I fully move on?Does just vocalizing these issues help?
I know the answer,but I'm afraid to deal with it.I guess I'm just having a bad day.I'm glad I have this meesage board .Youve all been great,sorry to bother with my pitifull emotions,
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Bush failure or stable Iraq?
by Spartacus inwould you rather see bush fail or a stable society for the iraqi people?
do anyone hate bush or america so much that you would rather see military failure which will mean more death and carnage for the iraqi people and the us/allied military?
or would you like to see a bush/allied military success, giving the iraqi people a chance to govern themselves toward a stable democratic society?
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stopthepain
Spartucus--------------at least Kerry actually went to war,unlike Bush ,who hid behind his old man!
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High rates of depression in Org.
by chuckyy ini noticed after being a jw for a while that many members of my congregation were having to take antedepressants.
(i counted at least 30 out of 100).
after a few years i too began to have bouts of depression and problems with anxiety.
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stopthepain
every day I think about ending it.Sad but true
P.S.I hate to admit that
I admit ive been drinking,but sober ,those thoughts always run through my head.