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millions now living will/may never die

by heretic in

i am a newbie and am loving the content on this site.

your a switched on bunch.

just one question can someone please clarify the 'generation that sees the beginning will see the end' theory.

heretic

Christ's Judging, Sheep and Goats
The WT has attempted to cover over Christ's failure to do anything they wanted him to do over the years by claiming a type of "gradual enthronement." When he failed to bring an end to the world at his supposed enthronement in 1914, they later claimed he had not yet exercised full kingship in the sense of JUDGING the earth. Up until the current Watchtower, they claimed that Christ became king over the Christian congregation in 33 C.E., then became king over the whole world in 1914, and then began judging the "remnant" of Christ's brothers (favorably) and Christendom (unfav-orably), and began separating the sheep and the goats for judgment.
Now, although still retaining the "judging of Christendom," Christ is said to have "judicially inspected" the "anointed remnant," and the separating of the sheep from the goats has not yet begun. The "separating" supposedly starts at the "great tribulation," SOON to come.
cheers gaz man

but where ive underlined, dont jws believe jesus doesnt judge its Jehovah, is this a mistake with the article?
also its written that noone knows the time not even the son only the father?
so anyone that makes a prediction is a false prophet? i just thought people in the org made assumtions about the date (thats what i was told/taught).
it wasnt til i came here that i realised the wts has been lobbing dates at its members like hand grenades.
sorry about the point form, i pasted the quote and everything went to s##t

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millions now living will/may never die

by heretic in

i am a newbie and am loving the content on this site.

your a switched on bunch.

just one question can someone please clarify the 'generation that sees the beginning will see the end' theory.

Feeling Vindictive & Like Causing Trouble

by Why Georgia in

my husband is a slowly and quietly fading away jehovahs witness.

i am not nor will i ever be a jw.

his mother is an absolute witch and i want to out her to her congregation.

millions now living will/may never die

by heretic in

i am a newbie and am loving the content on this site.

your a switched on bunch.

just one question can someone please clarify the 'generation that sees the beginning will see the end' theory.

heretic

i am a newbie and am loving the content on this site. your a switched on bunch.

just one question can someone please clarify the 'generation that sees the beginning will see the end' theory. did the WTS kill this idea or what, did they say its not a literal generation? i put this on another thread but got no replies, I would love it if some of you researchaholics could tell me what you find.

now i see in the latest W/T theyre likening our time to the days of noah with 120 years being the period between warning and flood. giving themselves nother 30 years to play with. that should see out the GBs retirement plans.

cheers

life

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Put a caption to this picture.....

by xjw_b12 in

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i'll go first.. "honey.

stop looking.

heretic

I dont know why theyre bothering to clean it up, its just gonna get destroyed in armageddon anyway.

that guy just looked at me should i informal witness to him? ah forget it were on holidays.

cheers

life

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reinstatement

by sugarbritches in

jw
friends

hi does anyone know what the procedure is for reinstatement?

i love this forum- you guys are all great.

sugarbritches

heretic

sugar, this person IS your friend, however, this person has been in the JW environment, which entales having little to no association with non witnesses thus almost every friend this person has made over at least the past few years is in the JW org. when him or her was disfellowshipped these friends became a powerful tool used against them by the orginisation to conform and return. The enormity of this cannot be concieved by most,as ALL your witness friends and quite possibly some/all of your family are shunning you, this person would most certainly be looking at every possible way of reentering the witnesses even if it isnt their wish.

When i was disfellowshipped i wanted back in so bad for about a year and a half and it was really wearing me down but i had an old schoolmate that i had kept in contact with (very little when i was in the 'truth') when i was trying to get reinstated it was someone i could go for a surf with and forget my hassles and we wouldnt talk about spiritual things just normal everyday things. It was really refreshing and now I consider him as one of my best friends.

So i dont know if my story is applicable to you and your friend but if you can just go to a movie with this friend once a fortnight or something to put some normalcy back into their life then you might just save them and have a friend for life.

or you could just say call me when you stop sooking and sort your s##t out and we'll go for a beer

cheers

life

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What if World War One never happened?

by outbutnotdown in

jw
friends

reading all these 1914 threads lately has made me think a lot more about my own feelings of the jw movement in the early years.

particularly how i feel they got kind of "lucky" that something big happened on whatever numbered prediction 1914 was for them.. we have all seen individuals ride out the rest of their sports, acting, etc.

careers on one big break.

heretic

i read something on this- the generation that sees the beginning will see the end- backpedal, what happened? I thought they still beleived in this. it shows that in australia we only get filtered down scraps of information but i think the smoke covered most of it and the mirrors took care of the rest.

so did they blame misinterpretation by the ranks or what.

i see they tried to buy another 30 years in the last watchtower study on Noah, how it was 120 years from Gods warning til the flood and we're only 90 years after 1914 how we must keep on the watch! man I cant take much more of their BS and i dont mean bible studies...

my little bro\best friend just got baptised at 20 Im not gonna wait til hes 50 to bring this up. I might just get the frustrated kid laid on his next visit and (how bad does this sound) hopefully he'll get d'd, hes starting to get into life and hes gonna waste it in there living in a box. but the most scary thing is if he needs a blood transfusion, i might just hijack the hospital and he can charge me with rape when hes better.

i was at his baptism, it was hard for me but i told him no matter what ive got his back. no matter what, i wouldnt let him die no way.

life

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Any advice on tattoos?

by carefully faded in

jw
friends

i've been faded for almost four years now.

i've decided in the last month or so that i would really like to treat myself to a small tattoo.

i'm going the conservative route and plan on getting it on my lower back - so it can be seen when i want it to be, but also easily hidden when necessary .

heretic

man sixofnine thats classic (previous page people) I can just imagine me lifting up the shirt and the watchtower tatt covering my whole back, what do ya think dad?

I didnt want to post but i need to see if my hasselhoff pic comes up.

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I am a newbie....

by sistaintheback in

i posted here a couple of months ago when the site had a little different format.

there was an area for newbies with concerns and that's where i lurked.

i have been in the "truth" for about 30 years.

heretic

sistainthback great sign in name I spent some time in the back of the hall. i can suggest this. read up on the origins of the 'truth' and come to your own opinion, dont let us tell you. I floated for a while after i was disfellowshipped, then i realised life is for living and I prob would only get one life. dont be scared to THINK, i know it doesnt sound scary but think about this 'is it possible the WTS could be deceiving you and not be the truth??' woah did i just say that. that was a scary question i asked myself, and "perhaps there is no God" after seriously pondering these things no matter what answer you come up with youll be convinced of it and wont feel a burden to pursue your convictions. lately ive had some time on the net and it opened my eyes not because of apostates but the information i found there, and now I believe I am so lucky that my being d'd jolted me to finally look into it.

If you do decide to leave and are always looking back at the 'truth' and the people in it its mental torture. moving will be good and make friends, im sure you've met worldly people before and said 'they were nice but theyre worldly'. be careful because worldly people arent as trustworthy as witnos but theres a bunch of nice people out there and theyll like you for you and not because your familys prominent in the congo.. the world looks intimidating and scary from inside but from out here it looks very scary to me to not be able to think for myself. Im 26 and have only thought for myself for about 2 years and its wonderful im defining who i am and am even getting a personality!! much love

lifes a garden.. DIG IT

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I wonder what they sent the UN

by heretic in

consequently, it is important that you should keep us informed about your orginizations information programme as it relates to the united nations, including sending us issues of of relevant publications..

quote from the uns dpi ngo letter.. i can just imagine a brother standing on the front door of the un saying "and you can see this scarlet coloured wild beast?

thats you, and over the page, you again geting showered by fireballs.

heretic

Consequently, it is important that you should keep us informed about your orginizations information programme as it relates to the United Nations, including sending us issues of of relevant publications.

quote from the UNs DPI NGO letter.

I can just imagine a brother standing on the front door of the UN saying "and you can see this scarlet coloured wild beast? thats you, and over the page, you again geting showered by fireballs. I think the artist really capture your eyes nicely, dont you think? and here the people you help running for they're lives so really you're just delaying the inevitable and now you and them are all dead and heres us, no were gonna be ok you see because were Gods people and you are satans people... you know the devil? there you go see its really quite simple, so that books a $2.50 donation if youd like to have a read"

operate solely for a non profit basis
one of the requirements for a NGO.

does this entitle them to some kind of financial assistance from the UN?