Saoirse

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  IT HAS BEGUN "BIG" NEWS ON AP NEWS WIRE

  by DannyHaszard in

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  religion today

  monterey county herald, ca - 2 minutes ago .

  new york - jehovah's witnesses are renowned for teaching that jesus is not god and that the world as we know it will soon end.

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  Wonderful news.

  I was wondering when it would start hitting the press.
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  WHAT WILL HAPPENED ABOUT DNA AFTER ARMAGEDDON?

  by badboy in

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  dna may well have originated with viruses.. assuming that adam and eve had no dna because having something from a virus must be a sign of the fall, what will happened after armageddon.. .

  will people be striped of dna in the new system?.

  what would go in its place?.

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  DNA MAY WELL HAVE originated with viruses.

  huh? I have never heard that before. Where did you hear that?
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  My husband had a heart attack

  by MsMcDucket in

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  hello all, the last 24+ hours, i've been at the hospital.

  i took my husband in because he was having chest pains.

  come to find out his cardiac enzymes were elevated and his ekg was abnormal.

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  (((((((MrsMcDucket))))))

  I hope your husband makes a speedy and full recovery. I will be praying for his health and your peace of mind.

  I hope and pray that this will be a wake-up call for your twins. Hang in there.

  ((((((Mrs. Jones)))))))

  I'm glad your husband is OK. I hope he continues to make a full recovery.
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  Poor little Girl!

  by qwerty in

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  how could anyone do this to a mother and baby?

  http://www3.whdh.com/news/articles/local/bo13102/

  family website.

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  Heartbreaking.

  I will never be able to understand how someone could be so evil. I really hope there is a hell.
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  Am I being Cynical?

  by slugga in

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  i was looking through the dub dating website that was advertised in another thread on here and noticed that an awful lot of young dubs are looking to meet people aged "18 - 80" ...yes 80 !.

  now this could be because these young dubs are really spiritual and believe that the great tribulation is just around the corner and that provided they've sold enough mags they and their 80 yr old partner will make it through and that "wrinkles" will become young again.

  or it could be because the young dubs are gold digging ?

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  Saoirse

  and it'll kill dead all those letters they get at bethel asking if oral sex is OK.

  Ugh... Thanks for the visual.

  I've always been attracted to men 10-20 years older than myself but I would never marry an 80 year old, no matter how much money he had.

  When I was still a JW I remember a 15 year old girl who was being pursued by a 46 year old elder. She ended up marrying this pervert when she was 17 and her parents were happy about it!
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  Are you allowed to fall asleep at the meetings now??

  by stillAwitness in

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  the sercuit overseer gave the expierence about an interested one who would come to the meetings every sunday but admitted he would always fall asleep because he worked a double shift at work the night before.

  the s.o said: "and sure enough he fell asleep during my talk.

  " but he said that it was so encouraging because even though he worked the night before he still tried to get what little he could of the talk and the guy related afterwards: "i would not want to be caught falling asleep anywhere else but at the hall.

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  Typical WT cult propaganda. You must be at all the meetings, no matter what. No concern for a tired, overworked individual getting into a car accident. No concern for the people he might injure or kill on the highway. And no concern for someone spreading an illness to others.

  remember a sister who believed such a thing and brought her children to the meeting with chicken pox.

  Anyone who would force a severely ill child to go out in public and sit through a meeting should be flogged, given a hysterectomy and have her children taken away. What a sorry excuse for a mother.
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  Not for the faint of heart, Ghost caught on a Automobile commercial

  by Wisdom Reaver in

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  currently making the rounds on the internet, is an email with a video attachment, along with this message:.

  strange but interesting.

  this is a car advertisement from great britain.

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  OMG, I almost had a heart attack.
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  Answer from the "Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses"

  by Lilycurly in

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  some of you might remember my situation....i have daed myself a while ago, and my father is the only jw in the family.

  since i am very close to him and the family, he has read everything related to shunning, he even asked elders and even them are not sure.

  so he wrote a big long letter to bethel to have an answer.

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  MY gawd isn't that the STUPIDEST thing when a father HAS to ask another person PERMISSION to speak with his OWN daughter!

  AMEN!!!

  (((((LilyCurly)))))

  I'm sorry you are going through a difficult time right now. I found some articles that show how unscriptual the practice of disfellowshipping is. I thought they might help you when you talk to your Dad. I wish you the best.

  http://www.towerwatch.com/Witnesses/Disfellowshipping/disfellowshipping.htm

  http://www.jwinfoline.com/Documents/Coming_out_issues/Disfellowship/pf_is_disfellowshipping_scriptural.htm

  http://www.escapefromwatchtower.com/friends.html
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  heard back from my dad - you won't believe it!

  by freedomlover in

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  2. experiences

  hey all you great people - in case you read my letter i sent to my dad the other day you may be interested in his reply.

  (see topic history for letter to my dad) .

  i am so happy and relieved.

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  Saoirse

  What beautiful letter, I'm so happy for you.

  Your father sounds like a wonderful man. You must be on cloud nine right now.
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  Many Questions

  by urstruly in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi i'm new to this forum.

  i've looked at other websites to and i see all this about the jw's, now i'm not one, i was raised a jw but made my own decision and my parents respected that.

  i've read so many horror stories, but my life wasn't like that at all, as a matter of fact, when they first knocked on our door and my mother accepted a study our life changed for ever, it was for the best in many ways.

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  I've read so many horror stories, but my life wasn't like that at all,

  
  You're lucky. My years as a JW were pure hell.

  as a matter of fact, when they first knocked on our door and my mother accepted a study our life changed for ever, it was for the best in many ways. I don't agree with some of the things but honestly if it wasn't for that knock on our door I just don't know what could have happened with a mother in to drugs an alcoholic dad and many many other things going on.

  It's wonderful that your parents are no longer into drugs and alcohol. But they didn't need the witnesses to help them with that. They could have joined any other church or a rehab program to get help with their problems.

  I don't agree with there beliefs, but if it gives others hope why mess with that?

  They are not giving them hope, they are telling them a lie. The WT claims to adhere to the bible yet they deny the essential doctrines of Christianity. They deny the deity of Christ, His physical resurrection, and salvation by grace. They change and alter texts in the bible and they take scriptures out of context.
  
  
  
  
  

  I'm sorry for what some of you have gone through but it sounds like some of you are just upset for being "punished", if you knew the consequences why get into it in the first place?

  I was raised that way, I had no choice. I am not disfellowshipped.

  And if you weren't happy being there either in anyhow, why be upset now because you were DF and even appealing?

  Many appeal because they want family relationships that are denied them because of the WT's twisted interpretation of the scriptures. The Bible never said to shun family members and it never said to shun people who point out a false teaching or a false prophet.

  Also, if you all are happy of being free, why hide behind nicknames or false pictures?

  Identity theft, stalkers, elders hiding in your bushes - there are numerous reasons why people don't disclose who they are.

  The way I see it, (I don't remember exactly what scripture) but if I recall correctly God says "vengence is mine" so does he really need you all or this website to uncover what ever is wrong within the org.?

  Definitions of vengeance
  

  • The act of taking revenge (harming someone in retaliation for something harmful that they have done) especially in the next life
  
  
  
  
  • harm or damage done to someone in retaliation for harm or damage
  
  
  • Revenge or vengeance consists of retaliation against a person or group in response to perceived wrongdoing. Although many aspects of revenge resemble or echo the concept of making things equal, revenge usually has a more injurious than constructive goal. The vengeful wish to make the other side go through what they went through or make sure they'll never be able to do what they did again.

  I don't understand why you think this discussion board is vengeful. This is a form of group therapy for many. Please explain what you mean.

  If you all still believe in a God and his power, why don't you all leave it in his hands?

  As a born-again Christian, I feel a personal responsibility to help my loved ones and other JWs know the truth about God. In the bible, believers didn't just stand by, twiddle their thumbs and wait for God to send thunderbolts from heaven. They took action and spoke out against wrongdoers.
  
  

  Also, I see many harsh comments about JW's themselves and some JW's responding rudely

  I have nothing against individual rank and file witnesses. I do have a problem with those in leadership positions. They are the ones who are responsible for teaching the lies.

  but how do you really know that it is one of them and not someone else passing as one just making them look worse?

  No one needs to impersonate JWs to make them look bad.

  All religions have there skeletons and all have there rules to abide by so what makes the JW's so special? Mormons can't aren't supposed to drink coffee, Pentecostals aren't supposed to cut there hair, wear make-up, or jewelery are we going to condone them for their beliefs?

  No one is perfect but if you continuously lie, break up families and permit pedophiles to hold leadership positions you should expect to be criticized. Mormons are criticized for their bizarre beliefs. All the Pentecostals I know wear makeup, fix their hair and wear lots of jewelry.

  Besides who are we to judge?

  Pointing out lies and false doctrine isn't judging.

  What does being free to you all mean? Being able to swear and live inmoral life?

  Freedom to me means being liberated from the lies I was taught and learning the truth about Christ. I try not to swear and I don't lead an immoral life. Your assumption that ex-JWs are immoral, vulgar people is extremely offensive to me. Most ex-JWs are good, caring, kind and wonderful people. I have seen more acts of kindness on this discussion board than I ever saw in all my years at the Kingdom hall.
  

  Does God need our help to uncover the lies?

  I'm sure God has his ways of dealing with this and he will.

  How do know that God isn't using us to help people leave this cult? Psalms 94:16 Who will stand up for me against evildoers? Who will take his stand for me against those who do wickedness?

  About child mollestation in the org. I don't think there's any org. that's free of these cases. As a matter of fact, I know for a fact that in my mothers congregation there was someone acused of sexual abuse, and the authorities where notified and he was deported! This was about 4 years ago. I was mollested as a child also, and I have to be honest the elders really helped me, my mother would be the one saying I was lying, she couldn't believe her own brother my uncle would do such a thing. But the elders had a talk with her, this one family actually opened the doors to their home so that I would be safe until my mom did something about it. (By the way, my uncle is not a JW he is a dovout catholic)

  I am truly sorry that you were molested. But, I can tell you from personal experience that if it were a JW that molested you, it would probably have been handled much differently.
  
  The problem isn't that a child was molested by a JW. The problem is that elders who knew about abuse were told not to report it to the police, that victim's families were told not to go to the police and that accused pedophiles were allowed to be elders in the congregation.
  
  My church does background checks on anyone who has a leadership position or who works with children. Child abusers and pedophiles are not allowed to have any position in the church. Shouldn't the JW's, who claim to be God's sole channel of communication, do the same?