Hi Sam, As you may know, Ed is my nephew. He is in the Daytona Beach, Fla. area and is still a JW (on the outside) Liggett is still Liggett, hanging in there (riding the fence and hoping not to fall off) I saw him about three years ago when I was demonstrating at the Nutter Center in Dayton. He would not speak of course but he was very interested in what I (we) were doing. He is still in Muncie.
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