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  Are/Were California witnesses REALLY different?

  by TMS in

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  rumors and urban legends abound with respect to california .

  witnesses.

  my suspicion is that envy and the hollywood personna.

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  ValiantBoy

  My family moved from SE Oklahoma to California in the mid 1980s. We stuck out like a sore thumb.

  A few things from our OK cong...some families hid their televisons when one prominent elder came to visit, sisters were sent home to change if they arrived for service in a sundress, Star Wars was blacklisted from the platforms, California witnesses were blaneketly called worldy witnesses, home schooling was forbidden, all elders were self contracters or janitors. All in all, it was about like the posting about Iowa a few posts back.

  In California, the service groups would stop, not for a short break, but for breakfast, even elders drove new cars, some of the sisters (even pio sisters) watched soap operas, the sisters wore shorter skirts, groups of witness youths would hang out without adult supervision--including mixed boy/girl groups. All in all, there was a much more tolerant spirit. But I think that was only because the whole society of people were more educated, open minded, etc...it's that whole red state/blue state thing
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  JW email forward about the tsunami

  by cyber-sista in

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  anyway, this is an email i received this morning.

  don't want to give any disrepectuful comments about it as this tragedy is overwhelming and i am grateful for any who have come out of this alive.

  but yet i am still suspicious of any of these jw reports.

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  ValiantBoy

  It is a shame that there is not a warning system, as many lives could have been spared. My heart does truly go out to all of those touched by this disaster. I cannot imagine the suffering that the individuals have experienced. And I continue to find it insulting that the society implies that only those busy in spiritual pursuits would survive, as htat is only one step away from saying that those who died in some way deserved to die. What an evil thought.

  Anuva, it was not my intent to debate you, merely to explain that the email mentioned in this first post was not entirely inaccurate.
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  Vomit alert re Tsunami and Governing Body

  by stillajwexelder in

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  just had this garabge in my e-mail from a sister.

  this report is not verified.

  yet if true, our prayers go out to.

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  ValiantBoy

  Witness logic is so skewed. I understand that your first worry is about your own...but with witnesses it never extends beyond that.

  And Blondie your logic is so correct...
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  JW email forward about the tsunami

  by cyber-sista in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  anyway, this is an email i received this morning.

  don't want to give any disrepectuful comments about it as this tragedy is overwhelming and i am grateful for any who have come out of this alive.

  but yet i am still suspicious of any of these jw reports.

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  ValiantBoy

  Here are some more articles from independant news sources detailing what time the tsunami hit individual locations:

  Indian mainland: http://www.rediff.com/news/2004/dec/30franc.htm,

  http://www.hindu.com/2004/12/27/stories/2004122706400300.htm

  Sri Lanka: http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=40188
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  JW email forward about the tsunami

  by cyber-sista in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  anyway, this is an email i received this morning.

  don't want to give any disrepectuful comments about it as this tragedy is overwhelming and i am grateful for any who have come out of this alive.

  but yet i am still suspicious of any of these jw reports.

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  ValiantBoy

  First off, my sources are very legitimate sources. The Associate Press is perhaps the most trusted news agency in the world.. Independant of the WTS, etc.

  Secondly, you are failing to consider time zone differences. The Andaman and Nicobar Islands (part of India) were hit by the tsunami just minutes after the earthquake. Their time zone is the same as the rest of India, even though they are farther east in the Indian Ocean. Thus, they were inded hit early in the morning (before 6 am), well before service or meetings. As for Thailand, it sits to the east...in a time zone that is one hour ahead. The tsunami did not hit there until over 90 minutes after the earthquake...which places it hitting between 9 and 10 am. Sri Lanka is also in a different time zone. The tsunami did not reach Galle, Sri Lanka until 2 hours after the precipatory earthquake. Even with the time difference, it struck at about 900 am as the associated press reported.

  Once more, it is dispicable that the Society uses these disasters as a time to put fear into the hearts of Witnesses rather than using it as a time to show love for witnesses and non witnesses alike. It was not my intent to defend the society, only to make sure that what we say is factual.
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  Best News for a Mother!

  by whyamihere in

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  i know this is so stupid and many of you will think i am nuts but i can't contain myself!.

  my daughter is finally potty trained!!!!!!!!

  yay!

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  ValiantBoy

  Wish my new kittens were that easy to train!
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  3 year old nephew has "bad dreams about Jehovah punishing him"

  by mkr32208 in

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  we watched my 3 year old nephew today.

  the wife and i took him and my two daughters (1 and 3) too the zoo.

  while we were driving home he was talking to my daughter in the back seat and started telling her about this "bad dream" that jehovah was punishing him "like david" my wife (dubber) was trying really hard to get him to stop relating this story (i've told her the kids will not be raised at witlesses!

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  And I had dreams about deomns attacking me until I was in my mid twenties and left the organization
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  3 year old nephew has "bad dreams about Jehovah punishing him"

  by mkr32208 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we watched my 3 year old nephew today.

  the wife and i took him and my two daughters (1 and 3) too the zoo.

  while we were driving home he was talking to my daughter in the back seat and started telling her about this "bad dream" that jehovah was punishing him "like david" my wife (dubber) was trying really hard to get him to stop relating this story (i've told her the kids will not be raised at witlesses!

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  ValiantBoy

  It reminds me of the topic over on the beliefs and practices page about WTBTS horror stories for children.
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  JW email forward about the tsunami

  by cyber-sista in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  anyway, this is an email i received this morning.

  don't want to give any disrepectuful comments about it as this tragedy is overwhelming and i am grateful for any who have come out of this alive.

  but yet i am still suspicious of any of these jw reports.

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  ValiantBoy

  It's funny how witnesses always do this. It reminds of many years ago when a shool bus load of children was kidnapped in Chowchilla, CA. THe WT or Awake later had a small article about some witness children were scheduled to be on the bus, but they were at the Convention in Oakland instead. How glad they were to be doing Jehovah's will! uggh..crazy selfrighteousness is so disturbing.

  Additionally...anyone that says that there are numeous local witnesses is mistaken. Ratios for these countries are as follows: (2003 figures)

  one witness to:

  India: 1 to 43008

  Indonesia:1 to 12315

  Sri Lanka: 1 to 4982

  Thailand: 1 to 30200 To put that in perspective, even if 1 million people in the Phuket area are affected, at that ratio, it would only include about 30 witnesses.
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  WB&TS Horror Stories for Children

  by OUTLAW in

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  when i was a very young child my mother told me the government would one day be rounding up j.w`s and putting them in concentration camps.when we were collected,i was to wear my warmest coat and boots,as we would probably be there until god destroyed the wicked at armageddon.i was told never to give up my belief`s,even if i were forced to burn my parents alive..got any good "wb&ts childrens horror stories" to share?...outlaw

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  ValiantBoy

  The pictures in the publications were really scary. I heard the concentration camp stories. But we didn't have the Armageddon drills, which really surprises me as my family was weird even by witness standards.

  My favorite was when the pioneer sister who had studied with my mom talked to me and my sisters about obeying our mom. She told the story of a young witness who had been told to always use the elevated crosswalk and never cross the highway. One day some worldly girls from school wanted him to croos on the highway. He said no. When he was on the crosswalk he heard screeching tires and saw the girls get hit by multiple cars. Both of the girls were decapitated and their heads flew though the air. If he had disobeyed, he would've died. So when we are disobedient, we will die. She ended hte story by asking us what we do if our mom left us alone for a little while and told us to NOT go outside and our house caught on fire. What would we do? Her answer was that if we were obedient and stayed inside, even if the firefighters tried to pull us out, Jehovah would protect us. Thankfully that never happened.

  And, of course, I loved smurfs, but after hearing how demon possessed they are, I was scared to death of them.