Data Dog is on to something! Reading CoC by Ray Franz you get that vibe of superiority from the GB and now that new light has made them FDS the air of power is all they wake up knowing they have to breathe!
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'great crowd' are in the temple (naos) but not in the new covenant???
by fukitol inin one of the biggest about-faces in watchtower history, in a 2002 question from readers it was admitted that the great crowd is indeed in the temple itself (naos) in revelation 7. .
but notice the statement bolded below from that article comparing the great crowd to the proselytes in ancient israel.
the statement is made that the proselytes "submitted to the law covenant.
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A flaw in JW logic on sin and transmision
by _Morpheus inthe "special talk" this year was about family happiness.
as always seems to be the case it was a bait and switch job since the talk had actually nothing to do with how to achive family happiness and everything to do with jw doctrine on why familys are unhappy.
mine is unhappy because of jw doctrine but thats the implied irony in attending the sunday indoctrination i suppose.. that said, the speaker trotted out the oft used jw illistration of a dented bread pan to describe why and how sin was passed from one human (adam) to another (all of us).
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Adams body was perfect. Perfect thinking would not have resulted in any flaws namely sining. Having the ability to choose doesn't make you imperfect since YHWH created good and evil. Adam learn the results of choices you make and having a woman in your life to influence them do not always help. Sorry that's reality.
Until we cut thru the thousands of years of corrupt Christianity that has us stuck it will be difficult to fine the TRUTH.
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PSALMS 83: 18 What is the name of God ?
by william draper inso many of us have been taught that the name of god is jehovah , if like me many have come to really appreciate god's name .. .
more accurately we , at least many or most love the name of jehovah , or more accurately should i say this pronunciation .
does god care what we call him , of course he does , he had his name written in the bible as yhwh ( best i can do on this computer ) , more than 6000 times .
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Jesus taught us to call him "father"!
Who calls their father by his first name!
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Governing Body Sheep Fleecing - Official!
by The Searcher infellow witnesses - do you think the kingdom hall belongs to you, just because you all paid for it and personally finance its maintenance?
think again, sheep!
the "shepherds" have announced the fleecing in black & white for you, in case you decide to question them!.
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We all know when they make over-haul decisions, they have to hit you over the head with a bible proof text verse to make sure YOU know it is directed by Jehovah because as long as the words are in the "good book" it's theocratic order.
They said person or congregation- they didn't say "organization"!
This only justifies why the congregations property deeds should not be in the local elders names.
Because they say so!
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1 Meeting for each of your fingers ? ? ?
by william draper inanybody remember how this became a doctrine , years ago , we were at the meetings so that out fingers would be learning something .
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Ok kids let's not forget Hebs 10 :25- its the "guilt" scripture that you better get your butt to the meeting(s) to get your spiritual food! -
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The Memorial - New Covenant
by lriddle80 inso, i went to the memorial tonight.
i've been out for about 10 years, but i went at my husband's suggestion to placate my parents.
i listened to the talk and about 90% of what they said, i agreed with.
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What you all are saying is correct but if the GB says the bible was written for the anointed- then when Jesus says "All" of course he is talking to the anointed!
you are not going to convince anyone who believes that crap!
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Memorial talk wt escape clause
by prologos in" --only those in the kingdom covenant were served the bread & wine by jesus--" ---false!
this phrase switches from the forgiveness of sin part to the exclusive anointed club section of the memorial talk, and it is false because: the kingdom covenant was done after the passover was done.
and the promise of thrones and judging israel in math 19:28 was not a covenant but an assurance.
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What we are forgetting is that Rev 14:3 "144,000 bought from the earth". RNWT. -
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Every Governing Body Decision is from Jehovah
by B4Right inhow do you convince a jw that every decision that comes from the governing body is not from god?.
my mom who is a pioneer said that the students are getting their work book a month early, then proceeded to say " jehovah knows what we need".. for you who now know ttat what did it take for you?.
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How do you convince a JW that every decision that comes from the Governing Body is not from God?
My mom who is a pioneer said that the students are getting their work book a month early, then proceeded to say " Jehovah knows what we need".
For you who now know TTAT what did it take for you?
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What does GOD want from his human creatures?
by B4Right inin wtbs world it's "be jehovah's friend"- it's "don't do anything to damage your relationships age my relationship with jehovah" !!
when you look at all the human relationships between god and jesus everyone was "chosen"!!
in the law of moses was there anything that told individuals to have their own relationship with god?
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In WTBS world it's "be Jehovah's friend"- it's "don't do anything to damage your relationships age my relationship with Jehovah" !! When you look at all the human relationships between GOD and Jesus everyone was "chosen"!! In the law of Moses was there anything that told individuals to have their own relationship with GOD?
ChWhat about you who are X-JW, is your mentality the same- doing what you can/ anything not to damage your relationship with Jehovah?
what does the bible really teach?
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Mind control.
by New day inin a recent thread someone mentioned that the wtbts uses mind control techniques.
do you think this is a conscious ploy?
if it is it would mean that the leaders of my religion (i am still an active jw) set out consciously to control people.
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When you read Ray Franz book you come to notice that going in, mind control is far from ones mind when become governing body member because you are already program to the illustional ways of the WTBS.
the eyes of reality becomes in focus when the first seed of doubt happens! Then your life change calling for a mental altering life decision.
when WTBS cannot apologize for errors, blaming others even individuals that demonstrate "thought" control in the publications needs to be administered.