so as they were reading this today, i read also v. 14-16. now 15 is the basis for the whole theme of the bible essentially for witnesses, i am not sure but other religions must believe the same.. snake=satan.
woman=gods organization.
if i got that somewhat correct.
You are right on! I wondered how I the world you stretch that to fit happy family!
our speaker said God had a purpose yet he had to change up his plan with the sin of Adam and eve and satan - " that snake" do plan to get rid of satan so ultimately families will be blessed.
GB stretching scriptures - makes me sick!
despite all the comments on the charity commission case - its not too bad for the wtbts.. .
the judge found in their favour on a number of key issues - the dates on the papers, the signatures were correct, it was nice paper and they used expensive qc's.
it is, however worth noting that the judge was not exactly supportive and found the cc were within their rights to investigate because:-.
If they issue an official report and make it public there maybe some shaking in the ranks. If they do a press conference of the findings then you're talking confidence rocking!
Avg. JW only will brush this off especially how the GB can do instant damage control on their JW broadcast.
in one of the biggest about-faces in watchtower history, in a 2002 question from readers it was admitted that the great crowd is indeed in the temple itself (naos) in revelation 7. .
but notice the statement bolded below from that article comparing the great crowd to the proselytes in ancient israel.
the statement is made that the proselytes "submitted to the law covenant.
the "special talk" this year was about family happiness.
as always seems to be the case it was a bait and switch job since the talk had actually nothing to do with how to achive family happiness and everything to do with jw doctrine on why familys are unhappy.
mine is unhappy because of jw doctrine but thats the implied irony in attending the sunday indoctrination i suppose.. that said, the speaker trotted out the oft used jw illistration of a dented bread pan to describe why and how sin was passed from one human (adam) to another (all of us).
Adams body was perfect. Perfect thinking would not have resulted in any flaws namely sining. Having the ability to choose doesn't make you imperfect since YHWH created good and evil. Adam learn the results of choices you make and having a woman in your life to influence them do not always help. Sorry that's reality.
Until we cut thru the thousands of years of corrupt Christianity that has us stuck it will be difficult to fine the TRUTH.
so many of us have been taught that the name of god is jehovah , if like me many have come to really appreciate god's name .. .
more accurately we , at least many or most love the name of jehovah , or more accurately should i say this pronunciation .
does god care what we call him , of course he does , he had his name written in the bible as yhwh ( best i can do on this computer ) , more than 6000 times .
Jesus taught us to call him "father"!
Who calls their father by his first name!
fellow witnesses - do you think the kingdom hall belongs to you, just because you all paid for it and personally finance its maintenance?
think again, sheep!
the "shepherds" have announced the fleecing in black & white for you, in case you decide to question them!.
We all know when they make over-haul decisions, they have to hit you over the head with a bible proof text verse to make sure YOU know it is directed by Jehovah because as long as the words are in the "good book" it's theocratic order.
They said person or congregation- they didn't say "organization"!
This only justifies why the congregations property deeds should not be in the local elders names.
Because they say so!
anybody remember how this became a doctrine , years ago , we were at the meetings so that out fingers would be learning something .
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so, i went to the memorial tonight.
i've been out for about 10 years, but i went at my husband's suggestion to placate my parents.
i listened to the talk and about 90% of what they said, i agreed with.
What you all are saying is correct but if the GB says the bible was written for the anointed- then when Jesus says "All" of course he is talking to the anointed!
you are not going to convince anyone who believes that crap!
" --only those in the kingdom covenant were served the bread & wine by jesus--" ---false!
this phrase switches from the forgiveness of sin part to the exclusive anointed club section of the memorial talk, and it is false because: the kingdom covenant was done after the passover was done.
and the promise of thrones and judging israel in math 19:28 was not a covenant but an assurance.
how do you convince a jw that every decision that comes from the governing body is not from god?.
my mom who is a pioneer said that the students are getting their work book a month early, then proceeded to say " jehovah knows what we need".. for you who now know ttat what did it take for you?.
How do you convince a JW that every decision that comes from the Governing Body is not from God?
My mom who is a pioneer said that the students are getting their work book a month early, then proceeded to say " Jehovah knows what we need".
For you who now know TTAT what did it take for you?
