Posts by Sparkplug

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Questions You would ask the "brother" who administered the baptism ?????

by Sparkplug in

ok, i have heard that the elder/annointed who gave me the questions for baptism is a huge apostate now...whoo hoo.

but i do have a few questions i am curious about and thought i would give him a call.

so if you could ask the elder who gave you the questions and the ok to be baptized into the jw's, what would you ask?.

Sparkplug

I wonder what he could have possibly said, had I known then that he was molesting his daughters, and confronted him on it?

You would be amazed at the bullsh@^%& that comes out of a molesters mouth.

the daughters that were molested were friends of mine, not me.

I did understand that. I just had someone let me know that there are so many ways to get into a lil girls pants. Sometimes just the ugly they make us feel when they act in such a manner to us makes them be inside our mind and actions for a long time.

I was never one of his victims, though he did try...I have very strong self-preservation instincts... strong enough that I think at times, it doesn't even register with me consciously that I was in danger. It's protected me in other situations too...

I am glad he did not get his hands on you nor your mind. Or at least it seems like he did not. I also really feel for your friends. i can only imagine what they are feeling. I only had a stepdad for a while...but I would say he was a monster. I cannot imagine if it were someone I loved from infancy.. Are they ok now? Do you get to visit with them? I sure hope they are loving life now...If not the sick bastard is still winning.

(He's still a brother, btw.)

I do understand the anger on that. One of my family membersis still a JW. Molested children, went to prison, and never was disfellowshipped. I had consentual sex with an adult, and told on myself... I was df'ed 1'st 2nd, and 3rd time was not consentual...but still DF'ed. It took me a long time to loose the raging anger on that. It still angers me, but I do not let it consume me anymore. I hope your friends find peace on this subject and enjoy life.

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Questions You would ask the "brother" who administered the baptism ?????

by Sparkplug in

ok, i have heard that the elder/annointed who gave me the questions for baptism is a huge apostate now...whoo hoo.

but i do have a few questions i am curious about and thought i would give him a call.

so if you could ask the elder who gave you the questions and the ok to be baptized into the jw's, what would you ask?.

Sparkplug

Honesty- I am wondering if the person whom I want to talk to ...seeing that he is not of the witnesses and highly opposed...knew this. Or is it part of what has changed his course? Maybe an unveiling happened to him?...Great question!

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Where & how can I post my letter to family? and...

by Frog in

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does anyone know how & where i can post a ms word document which is the letter i have written to my family?

i finally got the guts (yes an aussie) up to send it!

after several drafts, i am finally happy with the copy i have now written.

Sparkplug

oh Frog ((( Hugs with a holding pattern)) that really makes the eyes water... I salute you and i live by the rule to not hide what you are feeling for people. So it may open us up for some more hurt, but most definitely it opens a door for so much more love and fullfillment. Often from places never dreamed of. Great job.

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Questions You would ask the "brother" who administered the baptism ?????

by Sparkplug in

ok, i have heard that the elder/annointed who gave me the questions for baptism is a huge apostate now...whoo hoo.

but i do have a few questions i am curious about and thought i would give him a call.

so if you could ask the elder who gave you the questions and the ok to be baptized into the jw's, what would you ask?.

Sparkplug

Odrade- I am so very sorry. I have had all kinds of thoughts about the abuse even if it is not an actual tangible way that the abuse is administered. Think about it....How crappy did that make you feel about yourself...The misuse of power. Myself, I went thru a time where I wondered what I had done to provoke such actions upon me. I feel for you SIS! (As in the sisterhood of women that I KNOW exist. Even if it starts here.)

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Questions You would ask the "brother" who administered the baptism ?????

by Sparkplug in

ok, i have heard that the elder/annointed who gave me the questions for baptism is a huge apostate now...whoo hoo.

but i do have a few questions i am curious about and thought i would give him a call.

so if you could ask the elder who gave you the questions and the ok to be baptized into the jw's, what would you ask?.

Sparkplug

Ok, I have heard that the elder/annointed who gave me the questions for baptism is a huge apostate now...Whoo hoo. But I do have a few questions I am curious about and thought I would give him a call. So if you could ask the elder who gave you the questions and the OK to be baptized into the JW's, what would you ask?

For instance, I am curious as to if he really believed he was annointed or did he use it as a way to gain popularity?

Does he have any remorse as to the decisions he has made in regards to judicial committees and decisions he made over peoples lives?

Has he tried to apologize and attempt to right some of the wrong he administered? Has it helped anyone if so?

Was there a secret part of being an elder and did people straight up tell him how to play the game. You know maybe the "higher ups?"

Do you all have any ideas on things that maybe I will forget to ask if I do get in touch with him?

.

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Question for those raised a JW

by New Worldly Translation in

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i was wondering if anybody feels like i do that if i hadn't been raised a jw i would never have embraced the religion.

i know it's easier to say in hindsight after i know the truth about the org but honestly i don't think i would have given them the time of day.

i'm not a religious person or even a spiritual person and being a jw always caused a conflict in my mind.

Sparkplug

Amen Z!!

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social retard

by MerryMagdalene in

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i finally figured out why i'm so socially retarded...it just hit me.. here i was sitting and wondering why i have such a hard time meeting new people, making friends, thinking of relevent things to say, and so on.

it really is painful and scary for me.

i was told who i could talk to, who i couldn't talk to, what i could say, what i couldn't say.

Sparkplug

of not trusting ANYONE including my mate. With many years of patience he knows when I shut down and don't talk or give an answer isn't fully honest just to not bear the unpleasantness of honest communication. That is where I feel the most damage comes from. We never truly have that feeling of "unconditional" love in the borg. It is always conditiona on the basisl that we are "playing our part".

Say...for all the hurt. Maybe letting people in is good. At least that is my latest theory and I figure that say I let 10 people get to know me and they suck...but two are really cool...That still is better odds than shutting people out and feeling that aloneness. We build our families a bit at a time. You too have that option.

With being Gay, first off you automatically have lost half the population of the world. Then your family and the friends you grew up with (JW Stuff). So I am thinking that doing what I started doing at the advice of yet...haha one of my gay friends...and that is to build your own family. So I have a motley crew of folks that I love. And I will take the lumps of people hurting me any day... As long as I at least gave myself the chance to have one person in. If you dont give it all...Then more than likely you will end up with nothing..

That is all..my two peso's worth

SP

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social retard

by MerryMagdalene in

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friends

i finally figured out why i'm so socially retarded...it just hit me.. here i was sitting and wondering why i have such a hard time meeting new people, making friends, thinking of relevent things to say, and so on.

it really is painful and scary for me.

i was told who i could talk to, who i couldn't talk to, what i could say, what i couldn't say.

Sparkplug

evil....Is that Dr. Evil? I hear you and welcome. you should take this to the top and use it to introduce yourself! I personally think that would really be great. I don't know who all resents the elders kids, but it all is so warped that there is no way that I can think of that I could hold a grudge. We were all just trying to get thru all the crazy and...well what I am trying to say is I feel for you. That had to be very hard and an insight that a lot of people can relate to and maybe the other half needs to know. Sometimes sharing is the best"medicine"

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Question for those raised a JW

by New Worldly Translation in

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friends

i was wondering if anybody feels like i do that if i hadn't been raised a jw i would never have embraced the religion.

i know it's easier to say in hindsight after i know the truth about the org but honestly i don't think i would have given them the time of day.

i'm not a religious person or even a spiritual person and being a jw always caused a conflict in my mind.

Sparkplug

I do not think so. I have never felt the need to have a leader. I am not saying that I think I am the end all and be all...It is just now that I am not a witness, I really see no need to replace one adiction with another. I just live and try to start my family tree over. I know I am just one person in all of this sea of people over the ages and if someone such as all of the Theologist and suchlike people of the "thinking" mind...could not figure it out...what in the world makes me think I should even try. I think it would be a waste of time.

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The Cult of Four "Just Imperfect" Men

by Farkel in

the cult of four "just imperfect" men.

(please move on to the next thread, fluffers.

move on!

Sparkplug

Thank you Farkel and VM44

Ok. I cannot decipher what it is that I am feeling. I feel like heaving. I was DF'ed and have come to the conclusion that the JW's are full of it because of the hypocracy and all the actions that they preach about being so far from what they do. It is like they are the people having the "wool pulled over the eyes." I can hear myself saying that years ago (That phrase) and here I sit and yet again.. I still have had a hard time thinking that it is such a blatant misleading. Now I see these and want to stand in front of them for myself (pyramid). I am actually a bit ashamed that It was not based on any factual evidence that I left. See I just did not like what I saw. I am having a hard time with the fact that my brother and sisters who actually paid atttention at the meetings did not see any of this. I am a bit embarrassed that I did not look any further.

Things like this keep me humble. I will have to ponder on this a bit. Still feeling naseous.