i've been on this site now for a little while and think its brilliant and its been a tonic in getting things straight and for gathering research.
(thanks simon & ang).
in fact its difficult to get work done during the day because of reading posts on here.. a couple of months ago if someone wouldve asked me whether i was apostate i would have flatly refused partly because the indoctrination still has its effect even after a decade and the negative connotation attached to the word 'apostate' is still at the back of my mind.
Having never been a JW, I am not technically an "Apostate" ...
I do however associate with Apostates via this forum.
To this point I have been rather quiet here to protect my husband and his family. Otherwise I wouldn't give a rat's ass who knows I am a JWD member. And I have gotten in numerous arguments lately in defense of Apostates, so ...
I am not an Apostate, but I have a rebellious spirit (and I don't give a shit about labels).
RS (of the tell me why I should care what you think class)
yesterday i watched a thread grow so fast it was insane.
that thread wasn?t about how bad the society was, it wasn?t about sex or drugs, it was what we thought could have been someone committing suicide, saying they had enough?life sucks and then....
then today i read a second posting of someone who has done an exhaustive study on the postings found within jwd (actually only the tame ones that are from people leaning more pro org than against) and determined what a hate filled sack of pus this place is.
I wholeheartedly agree, WLG. As I said yesterday, the WTS dehumanizes people - I could never be a part of that. The last time I was lectured about apostates in particular, I gave back an earful. Apostate is a dehumanizing label designed to discredit - nothing more. I for one think you are all tremendously courageous - I've seen firsthand how DA/DF people are treated - it takes courage and heart to stand up for yourself and maintain your integrity.
As a sidenote, in another thread someone mentioned the JWs use of the word "ones" - in most situations where that word is used, the average "worldly" person would use the word "people" or "person". "Ones" is just another dehumanizing label, no matter its context. Heaven forbid anyone is thought of as a thinking, feeling person.
JMHO ...
::hugs:: WLG
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i love music, my taste in music is very eclectic, classical, opera,techno/trance,spanish, pop, metal, rock, musicals etc.............. when i am angry my taste turns dark and i listen to marilyn manson.. what do you listen to when you are angry?.
In general my musical taste is very dark. I love things like NIN and Manson. The band I started recently is also a very dark musical taste. If you like dark stuff, you should check out some of the old Type O Negative stuff.
OMFG Dustin ... you're awesome!
I am much the same way ... dark, that is.
And ... Peter Steele ... yum!!
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i love music, my taste in music is very eclectic, classical, opera,techno/trance,spanish, pop, metal, rock, musicals etc.............. when i am angry my taste turns dark and i listen to marilyn manson.. what do you listen to when you are angry?.
Hmmm ... music I listen to when angry, or simply when feeling dark (which is my usual inclination, thus my fascination with vampires) ..
Pantera ... (old) Metallica ... Iron Maiden ... NIN ... AIC ... Linkin Park ... Nickelback ... Stabbing Westward ... Trust Company ... Godsmack ... Rob Zombie ... Ministry ... Marilyn Manson ... Saliva ... Ozzy ...
When I think of this JW thing I'm dealing with .. I think of Limp Bizkit's "My Way" in particular ...
You think you're special, you do
I can see it in your eyes
I can see it when you laugh at me
Look down on me
And walk around on me.
Just one more fight
About your leadership
And I will straight up
Leave your shit
Cause I've had enough of this
And now I'm pissed
This time I'm a let it all come out
This time I'm a stand up and shout
I'm a do things my way, it's my way
My way or the highway.
Just one more fight
About a lot of things
And I will give up
Everything
To be on my own again
Free again.
This time I'm a let it all come out
This time I'm a stand up and shout
I'm a do things my way, it's my way
My way or the highway.
Some day you'll see things my way
Cause you never know
No ya never know
When you're gonna go.
Just one more fight
And I'll be history
Yes I will straight up
Leave your shit
And you'll be the one who's left
Missing me.
This time I'm a let it all come out
This time I'm a stand up and shout
I'm a do things my way, it's my way
My way or the highway
Some day you'll see things my way
Cause you never know
No ya never know
When you're gonna go.
i would like for it to be known that my being apart of jwd has been an experience that has given me hope.
i've come to enjoy being a part of the online community, so much so that it's what i look forward to when my day involves something other than being here.
the only thing better than being here would be to experience being with you all, face to face.
Nice post Arthur ...
Love and hugs,
RS
so ive been a witness my whole life and i hate it.
i believe its effed up my life.
no sports, no extracurricular activities, small amount of friends, and im like totally innocent compared to my friends i have now.
You should quit living in the past. She probably has already hooked up with someone else. You already asked her out once, she rejected you.. time to move on bro.
I agree with GBL - sounds like it's time to acknowledge and move on.
theres this fat chick at work who wants to go with me, im like hell no to that. i wanna go with someone whos decent lookin, pretty, and fun, pretty much my ex gf.
pretty much i dont want to go with some innocent girl because then it probably wont be that fun, and then im kinda worried about goin with a wild and fun girl cuz then they might think im too innocent.
and no im not gonna go with that fat chick, she pisses me off too, annoying as hell.
this fat chick is the lowest, dumb as **** as you can get, an insult for even liking me.
This might be where your trouble lies, dude.
i'll try to make the religious story short.
my grandma has been a witness for a really long time.
my grandpa, catholic.
I'm sorry Cindy! I will be keeping you and your grandpa in my thoughts and prayers. And if it helps, we're here for you anytime. I'm sure we all have lots of hugs and comfort if you need it.
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truth is on the march, who can stop it now?
emile zola
Truth Is On The March, who can stop it now?
How perfect - has such a militant, oppressive ring to it.
this should be fun .
name your best quality, and your worst fault.. quality: i'm very fast at everything.
fault: i'm easy to influence.
Quality: My "fire", my inner strength, and the passion with which I love the people in my life.
Fault: I'm told that I tend to intimidate people easily because of my brutally honest, no BS personality. I don't find my brutal honesty or no BS take on life to be faults ... but it is not my intention to intimidate, so that's where the fault lies.
for me it's "the doors of the ark are closing.
i can never forget as a child, being forced to see the graphic images in the publications showing families, mothers with little babies clinging to a rock and others drowning as the ark floats away.
fathers shaking their fists at god for destroying their families... it's like some of the little mind control still functioning in there somewhere causing a kneejerk reaction of uneasiness.... are there any others that bug you?.
Also putting in my vote for "ones" - these ones, those ones, lowly ones, spiritual ones, .. what is up with that?!
And .. WTF is a "lofty throne" - "Heavenly father Jehovah we approach your lofty throne ..." - that drives me nuts!
