Posts by RebelliousSpirit

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Going into debt too pay for a wedding

by unbeliever in

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i know someone who is getting married and i am amazed how much money she spent.

she is a student and works part-time and if she's lucky makes $650 a month.

her fiance has a full time job but it goes for bills.

RebelliousSpirit

My husband and I paid for our wedding ourselves. We had a lovely wedding, and a beautiful reception (about 90 guests). Everyone raved that it was the best wedding/reception they'd been to - we specifically had no alcohol at our reception, but you'd never have known it. lol! At any rate, the wedding/reception cost us a grand total of $2,000. Heck my wedding dress only cost $99 - I'm not a frilly kind of person. Bottom line is we did not go into debt for our wedding (nor did our families have to). We've been very happily married for 6 years (together for 8) - and I forsee many, many more (forever would be nice!).

My JW sister-in-law on the otherhand - my inlaws paid for her wedding (at least $10,000 ... if not more) - and as it is she only got married (to a guy she barely knew) because she apparently got "wedding fever" watching me plan our wedding. That point was proven when her brother and I had been planning our wedding for 6 months - SIL met a guy, and they decided they would get married - 2 weeks before my wedding. ::grumble:: Oh, did I mention her JW husband has been cheating on her for the last 3 years of their marriage, is an abusive @sshole, and just disassociated himself and filed for divorce? Heh. The sad thing is ... everyone told her not to marry him, her parents even offered to call off the wedding - but no, she was 19 and she knew better than everyone else. ::shaking head::

And just to throw more JW crap into the mix - he admitted to infidelity a few years back, and she forgave him. Now everyone knows he's up to his old tricks again, but he refuses to admit it knowing that she can't get a scriptural divorce out of it if he doesn't. A man can physically and emotionally abuse his wife for 6 years, and she can't scripturally divorce him. He can admittedly have phone sex and be @ss deep in pornography, and she can't scripturally divorce him. AND he can committ adultery to his heart's content, but if she can't prove it - she can't scripturally divorce him. If it were me, I'd be telling them where to stick their scriptural divorce.

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I have a Dilemma ... would appreciate some advice....

by stevenyc in

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well, it appears that i?m in a bit of a quandary and would appreciate any advice anyone could give.

two days ago i announced that spring had finally arrived to some fellow new yorkers.

they tried to convince me that on the north east coast, spring is never certain until summer is here, nonetheless i was adamant that, ?spring had indeed arrived?, and took on full responsibility for such a (now obvious) brash statement.. .

RebelliousSpirit

The following day (yesterday) we had a drop in temperature of 25 degrees with accompanying snow, and gusts of upto 50mph with a wind chill factor of 0f.

Ah so I have you to thank for the fact that it is currently 18 degrees and we have a winter weather advisory in effect until tomorrow morning?

Thanks Steve - for that, snow down the pants!

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What kind of Apostate are you?

by diamondblue1974 in

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i've been on this site now for a little while and think its brilliant and its been a tonic in getting things straight and for gathering research.

(thanks simon & ang).

in fact its difficult to get work done during the day because of reading posts on here.. a couple of months ago if someone wouldve asked me whether i was apostate i would have flatly refused partly because the indoctrination still has its effect even after a decade and the negative connotation attached to the word 'apostate' is still at the back of my mind.

RebelliousSpirit

Having never been a JW, I am not technically an "Apostate" ...

I do however associate with Apostates via this forum.

To this point I have been rather quiet here to protect my husband and his family. Otherwise I wouldn't give a rat's ass who knows I am a JWD member. And I have gotten in numerous arguments lately in defense of Apostates, so ...

I am not an Apostate, but I have a rebellious spirit (and I don't give a shit about labels).

RS (of the tell me why I should care what you think class)

27

Apostates, Hatred for the Org, leaving JWD

by wanderlustguy in

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yesterday i watched a thread grow so fast it was insane.

that thread wasn?t about how bad the society was, it wasn?t about sex or drugs, it was what we thought could have been someone committing suicide, saying they had enough?life sucks and then....

then today i read a second posting of someone who has done an exhaustive study on the postings found within jwd (actually only the tame ones that are from people leaning more pro org than against) and determined what a hate filled sack of pus this place is.

RebelliousSpirit

I wholeheartedly agree, WLG. As I said yesterday, the WTS dehumanizes people - I could never be a part of that. The last time I was lectured about apostates in particular, I gave back an earful. Apostate is a dehumanizing label designed to discredit - nothing more. I for one think you are all tremendously courageous - I've seen firsthand how DA/DF people are treated - it takes courage and heart to stand up for yourself and maintain your integrity.

As a sidenote, in another thread someone mentioned the JWs use of the word "ones" - in most situations where that word is used, the average "worldly" person would use the word "people" or "person". "Ones" is just another dehumanizing label, no matter its context. Heaven forbid anyone is thought of as a thinking, feeling person.

JMHO ...

::hugs:: WLG

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Music & Anger

by Dragonlady76 in

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i love music, my taste in music is very eclectic, classical, opera,techno/trance,spanish, pop, metal, rock, musicals etc.............. when i am angry my taste turns dark and i listen to marilyn manson.. what do you listen to when you are angry?.

RebelliousSpirit

In general my musical taste is very dark. I love things like NIN and Manson. The band I started recently is also a very dark musical taste. If you like dark stuff, you should check out some of the old Type O Negative stuff.

OMFG Dustin ... you're awesome!

I am much the same way ... dark, that is.

And ... Peter Steele ... yum!!

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Music & Anger

by Dragonlady76 in

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i love music, my taste in music is very eclectic, classical, opera,techno/trance,spanish, pop, metal, rock, musicals etc.............. when i am angry my taste turns dark and i listen to marilyn manson.. what do you listen to when you are angry?.

RebelliousSpirit

Hmmm ... music I listen to when angry, or simply when feeling dark (which is my usual inclination, thus my fascination with vampires) ..

Pantera ... (old) Metallica ... Iron Maiden ... NIN ... AIC ... Linkin Park ... Nickelback ... Stabbing Westward ... Trust Company ... Godsmack ... Rob Zombie ... Ministry ... Marilyn Manson ... Saliva ... Ozzy ...

When I think of this JW thing I'm dealing with .. I think of Limp Bizkit's "My Way" in particular ...

You think you're special, you do
I can see it in your eyes
I can see it when you laugh at me
Look down on me
And walk around on me.

Just one more fight
About your leadership
And I will straight up
Leave your shit
Cause I've had enough of this
And now I'm pissed

This time I'm a let it all come out
This time I'm a stand up and shout
I'm a do things my way, it's my way
My way or the highway.

Just one more fight
About a lot of things
And I will give up
Everything
To be on my own again
Free again.

This time I'm a let it all come out
This time I'm a stand up and shout
I'm a do things my way, it's my way
My way or the highway.

Some day you'll see things my way
Cause you never know
No ya never know
When you're gonna go.

Just one more fight
And I'll be history
Yes I will straight up
Leave your shit
And you'll be the one who's left
Missing me.

This time I'm a let it all come out
This time I'm a stand up and shout
I'm a do things my way, it's my way
My way or the highway

Some day you'll see things my way
Cause you never know
No ya never know
When you're gonna go.

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You're My Reason For Why I Am

by prophecor in

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i would like for it to be known that my being apart of jwd has been an experience that has given me hope.

i've come to enjoy being a part of the online community, so much so that it's what i look forward to when my day involves something other than being here.

the only thing better than being here would be to experience being with you all, face to face.

RebelliousSpirit

Nice post Arthur ...

Love and hugs,

RS

58

man im havin trouble finding a prom date...

by crizlee in

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so ive been a witness my whole life and i hate it.

i believe its effed up my life.

no sports, no extracurricular activities, small amount of friends, and im like totally innocent compared to my friends i have now.

RebelliousSpirit

You should quit living in the past. She probably has already hooked up with someone else. You already asked her out once, she rejected you.. time to move on bro.

I agree with GBL - sounds like it's time to acknowledge and move on.

theres this fat chick at work who wants to go with me, im like hell no to that. i wanna go with someone whos decent lookin, pretty, and fun, pretty much my ex gf.

pretty much i dont want to go with some innocent girl because then it probably wont be that fun, and then im kinda worried about goin with a wild and fun girl cuz then they might think im too innocent.

and no im not gonna go with that fat chick, she pisses me off too, annoying as hell.

this fat chick is the lowest, dumb as **** as you can get, an insult for even liking me.

This might be where your trouble lies, dude.

51

My Grandpa may pass away tonight

by cindykp in

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i'll try to make the religious story short.

my grandma has been a witness for a really long time.

my grandpa, catholic.

RebelliousSpirit

I'm sorry Cindy! I will be keeping you and your grandpa in my thoughts and prayers. And if it helps, we're here for you anytime. I'm sure we all have lots of hugs and comfort if you need it.

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Prognostications of the decline of J.W. and WTBS

by dostprefer in

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truth is on the march, who can stop it now?

emile zola

RebelliousSpirit

Truth Is On The March, who can stop it now?

How perfect - has such a militant, oppressive ring to it.