Wow, you guys make a deal out of nothing. As far as going out preaching, I was never informed that it was required. I almost never went and new many others who didn't go preaching with them. Yes, you get labeled as spiritual weak by them, but who cares what they think. The people who didn't go preaching were the ones who didn't give a damn and were probably just fading away like I did. Damn, stop living your lives by their rules now that your out.
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Article in local college newspaper
by Jim_TX inhttp://www.theranger.org/media/storage/paper1010/news/2006/05/18/urbanjournalismworkshop/teen-jehovahs.witnesses.share.beliefs-2118143.shtml?norewrite200609191657&sourcedomain=www.theranger.org.
(if i knew how to link better, i might be able to do this right...).
i found this on the internet... it may be 'old news' - but it is interesting.
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Society goes nuts--yet another "special" campaign for September!
by sir82 inin an earlier post here http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/114651/1.ashx i noted the society's "special campaign" for september, an "awake" magazine dedicated to the topic of evolution vs. creation.
there is a "special campaign" to highlight that magazine all month.. got a call from our po last night.
there is going to be yet another "special campaign" in september -- a new "kingdom news" tract.
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Nothing new or nuts about this. The society have always been doing events like this all the time. And those who participated or the ones who gave up their homes and moved someplace else did it on their own free will. Nobody pointed a gun at them and forced them. Now as crazy as the society ideas sound, the fact is that every single one who gave money or something up in order to work for the society did it because they felt it was the right thing to do. If you really want to blame someone blame the persons who fell for this and gave up their lifes for a lost cause. Now that time is lost and for some of us who have gone thru this ourselves now is the time to keep living our lives the best way we can. A lot of comments here remind me of an old ex-boyfriend or ex-girlfriend. Now that we finally broken up with the ex-boyfriend or ex-girlfriend we are griping and moaning about all the wasted time and money we spent on them. When the case should be that we should be out free and looking for new opportunities instead of being miserable for the rest of our lives.
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"Store up... treasures in heaven." 2007 Circuit Assembly review
by Zico ini had my circuit assembly last weekend.
it was absolutely mind numbing, but i took extensive notes, and i thought i'd share the key points with everyone here for your reading pleasure.. .
i feel i'd made a lot of progress since my convention in june.
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R6Laser
And you did all this because.....?
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Why not make a 'Daily life of an ex jw who posts on the JWD forum'? It would go something like this. First: Get up in the morning and search the internet for articles involving JW's and no matter how insignificant they are make it seem like a big deal and post them up in the JWD forum so that everyone can comment on them just like we used to do in the Kingdom Hall. Second: Make up stories of little things to make it sound like there's some big news happening in the WT which will shake up things in a major way. ....on and on and on.
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i was born into a violent abusive JW family
by ania inthe abuser was my father, we were all (7 children) abused severely (including our mother) as a child i did not understand what exactly was going on but after many years of councelling and so-forth (my counceller tells me, my case is the most severe she has had in her 12 years as a counceller) i discovered that my father was (is) a sado-masichist.
he got sexual enjoyment from beating us all.
i already knew this to an extent i just never realised there was actually a name for what he got out of it.. after 20 odd years of this abuse, my mother had tried to go through the right channels (the elders, in several congregations we moved to etc) in order to get permission to take her children and live separate to her husband who was a constant threat to our very lives (he was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic & incrediably unpredictable) she was however told time and again that if she left her husband she and her unbaptised children (under 18) would most certainly lose out on everlasting life.
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This is why elders should not be the ones who one goes when situations like this happen. Law enforcement should always be option number one. I find it very sad that elders don't do anything about situations like this, but I would never in my wildest dreams go to them with such a horrible situation. What are they going to do anyways? They can't stop the person doing the abuse. The only logical way to handle this is going to the proper authorities, which does not include the elders in the congregation. Now before you say anything, I know that most dubs in the congregation always go to the elders first and do what the elders tell them. Like they are the one and only saviors in every situation. I always hated that, and it probably will not change as long as the jw's give them that right. Either way you put it still is a personal decision. So what if they threaten me with df or shunning me? I wouldn't care at all, the most important thing is to stop the abuse and not letting it happen again no matter what elders say about it. This is what I have a hard time with, the power that some give to the elders when they should never have that power.
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Canadian JWs voting YES on city tax-exemption poll
by Had Enough ini just got an email today telling me of an email circulation among the jws about an newspaper article in coquitlam, british columbia in canada.
currently, the jws are not exempt from paying city taxes.
it reports that the council is reviewing its policy on tax breaks to be given to certain groups.
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"I don't find this funny at all. If the JWs ARE "trying to sway the vote to YES" by getting as many other JWs as possible to add their YES vote to the count...does that mean we should just sit back and watch?....or should we maybe TRY to even things out a bit by adding our opinion to the vote. That's all this opinion poll is asking....just what does the public think about this subject.
Sometimes I just don't get it. Many of us have spent the majority of our lives locked into this "yes master"..."whatever you say master"..."no questions asked and no opposing opinion offered" type of thinking. When we finally break free of it, what do we do? Do we sit back and just watch others waste their lives in this kind of thinking or do we try to do whatever we can to try to stir things up a little at a time.... no matter how little it is or how insignificant it may seem to be to others?
Had Enough (of the "I want to do whatever I can, no matter how little it is, to hopefully help someone to start thinking on their own " class)"
I do find it funny because now that you spent all this time getting out of their control you are doing exactly what was being done to you in the first place. You are trying to influence people to change their minds to YOUR way of thinking. I don't know about you but I never said yes, master, or did anything I was uncomfrotable with when I was associating with JW's. So who are you to try and force other people to YOUR way of thinking. Its a free world, if someone wants to beleive that the sky is made of marshmallows than that is their issue. That person is living his life just fine and is happy. I won't waste my time trying to find agendas on things that are for personal decisions.
We left the cult, good for us, those that want to see things for what they truly are will eventually come to their senses and find their way out too. I don't need to force my beliefs on people who don't want them, otherwise we become the same thing that they are.
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Canadian JWs voting YES on city tax-exemption poll
by Had Enough ini just got an email today telling me of an email circulation among the jws about an newspaper article in coquitlam, british columbia in canada.
currently, the jws are not exempt from paying city taxes.
it reports that the council is reviewing its policy on tax breaks to be given to certain groups.
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Funny how hard some try to bring anything and put a negative spin on it. This is a newspaper poll, so nothing to do with politics. Secondly this newspaper poll is in no way accurate. I know many times where people can go around settings or even log in to different computers to make the vote sway one way, this is the problem with online polls. I can call my friends that work at an University Computer Lab and have him log in to as many computer he wants and have him vote YES or NO. Even funnier how a comment was made that JW's are trying to sway the vote to YES, but in the same token here we are trying to do the same thing to sway the vote to NO.
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i was born into a violent abusive JW family
by ania inthe abuser was my father, we were all (7 children) abused severely (including our mother) as a child i did not understand what exactly was going on but after many years of councelling and so-forth (my counceller tells me, my case is the most severe she has had in her 12 years as a counceller) i discovered that my father was (is) a sado-masichist.
he got sexual enjoyment from beating us all.
i already knew this to an extent i just never realised there was actually a name for what he got out of it.. after 20 odd years of this abuse, my mother had tried to go through the right channels (the elders, in several congregations we moved to etc) in order to get permission to take her children and live separate to her husband who was a constant threat to our very lives (he was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic & incrediably unpredictable) she was however told time and again that if she left her husband she and her unbaptised children (under 18) would most certainly lose out on everlasting life.
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I say this with no offense meant and I'm really sorry that you went thru all of this. But your title could also be "I was born into a violent abusive family." You mentioned yourself that your father was a sadomasochistic, so the problem would be your father and no matter if you were a JW or a mormon the same thing would've happened. Plenty of abusers out there who aren't religious.
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JWs & Illegal/Undocumented Immigrants
by doinmypart inthere is legislation in the u.s. congress regarding illegal/undocumented immigrants.
part of the language deals with churches assisting illegal immigrants.. much of the increase in the u.s. branch is due to growth of spanish-speaking congregations, and a large part of these congregations are made up of illegal/undocumented immigrants.
a typical spanish congregation often needs help.
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And what can they do besides to encourage them to get their status legally? Another question would be what are you doing to help the illegal immigrants you know? Or are you just covering your ass?
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Why don't Dub families have pets?
by MinisterAmos inout of a dozen or so dub families that live near me i can only think of one with a dog.
at mt ex-congo, i only knew of two families with pets, dogs/cats.
the non-dub pet owning percentage around me is near 100%.
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R6Laser
(Yawn)... When I was growing up my neighbors didn't have any dogs, now I can't stop but think that they must've been part of some demonic cult that didn't allow them to have dogs. I always felt like an outcast when I was in my backyard playing with my dog. I would notice my dogless neighbors peer thru their windows making snide remarks because I was the only one in the block with a dog. I sit and wonder here to this day and can't get it out of my mind, that's why I need all your help and I thank for the originial poster creator who's full of wisdom for creating this thread. Now I have a little insight of why my neighbors didn't have any dogs while I was growing up. Now I can finally sleep at night.