How about...
...Are all Apostates Bitter Old Farts?...
...ok, I might be kidding just a little.
R6Laser
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NZ beautiful
by ania ini love it in here sooo much and so do my kids just wanted to share some of my photo's with people who i know will appreciate the beauty of our natural environment and wildlife: if anyone ever gets a chance to visit nz please don't drive through kaikoura on your way (from christchurch to blenheim) you would be missing out on one of the most special places in the world!!!.
seals about 3 minutes walk down the beach from where i live.
aren't they gorgeous???.
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R6Laser
Wow, it is beautiful. I almost bought airline tickets to go to NZ this October, but I had to wait due to contract issues with my job. But I'm planning on making a trip to NZ next year. How's the weather by Auckland in March? Where do you recommend for a visitor to stay, Auckland or Christchurch?
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To Loyal Witnesses: Please Listen!
by metatron inif you are a loyal, zealous witness, please listen to me.. i'm going to tell you straight from my heart, right out of.
my hard-won personal experience, how to avoid unhappiness.. here it is:.
don't bet on games you can't win.. let me illustrate.
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R6Laser
The reality is that you were not forced and I was not forced to do anything. Even if you don't want to admit it many involved in the jw's think that they are doing the right thing, as misguided as they might be. Now as far as them not giving privileges away to those who didn't have a specific number, why would I care in the first place if I didn't want to be involved in that. Like I said most of you cite the extreme situations. Just for your information carla I stopped attending one night out of the blue and never went back, never had a judicial commitee breathing down my neck or elders harrasing me. My mother is still a member and we still talk fine with no problems, even when I see old friends that still attend the kh we still talk just fine. Take that as you will, but I lived it and did not see most of the extremes cited on here.
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To Loyal Witnesses: Please Listen!
by metatron inif you are a loyal, zealous witness, please listen to me.. i'm going to tell you straight from my heart, right out of.
my hard-won personal experience, how to avoid unhappiness.. here it is:.
don't bet on games you can't win.. let me illustrate.
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R6Laser
No I'm not joking. Most of them really beleive that they are doing the right thing. Now I was never informed that I was forced to mantain a certain number of hours each month. But if you went ahead and felt forced than that is your own problem. You are merely citing the most extreme cases, and there were many. Many elders were strict but if you had an ounce of pride in yourself you would never allow someone to force you to do something you didn't want to. But hey that's just me, in your case you were just a puppet.
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To Loyal Witnesses: Please Listen!
by metatron inif you are a loyal, zealous witness, please listen to me.. i'm going to tell you straight from my heart, right out of.
my hard-won personal experience, how to avoid unhappiness.. here it is:.
don't bet on games you can't win.. let me illustrate.
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R6Laser
I stand corrected. You've said it better. There comes a point
in life when you realize that helping others is the thing to
center your existence around. It's like life's default setting-
you've done it all, seen it all - there's no other purpose to
be had!Isn't that what jw's try to do anyways. While they might be misguided that is what they beleive they are doing. And your purpose of life does not match my purpose of life. I don't want to spend the rest of my life helping people realize that my point of view is better than theirs. Everyone has their own purpose in life and if they are happy in doing whatever it is that they are doing than why change that?
Your post also makes some generalizations about certain things that I don't agree with. It mentions elders not been able to hold jobs, same with pioneers. I don't know which congregation you belonged too, but the ones I was at the elders had nice paying jobs, nice houses, cars, etc. Even the president overseers own son was the high school valedictorian and went on to college in a different state to get his degree. I myself went to college and graduated. Almost everyone I knew of about my same age went to college when I was attending the meetings.
Lastly you mention about IT jobs, a section where I do have experience and let me tell you its not as easy as you make it sound. In the past 10 years I haven't been able to find an IT job that will last longer than 2 years. Reason being is companies are outsourcing and downsizing. I got outsourced once out of a nice paying job and anther time the company was downsizing so they elimintated half their IT people.
The IT field is so saturated with people that its hard to get your foot in the door. When I was a system administrator in a big company in downtown Chicago we posted an opening for an IT position. I had to setup a different mail account just for that position because of the hundreds if not thousands of applications the HR department got in a couple of weeks. Funny thing is that after they got the position filled they decided to downsize and half the IT staff went out the door.
Now I actually work overseas as an IT contractor for the same reason, no jobs in my field that actually have decent pay. One thing I'll be doing as soon as I get done with my contract is trying to get into another field.
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If you could make and distribute a bumper stick to open minds.......
by whyizit inif you could make and distribute bumper stickers to use as a tool to open the minds of jws or cult members, what would you put on them?.
keep in mind that you would like to open thier minds, yet not offend them.
something that any person could stick on their bumper and the jws would not be able to find reason to label them as opposers or apostates.
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R6Laser
None. Why would I want to look like a self righteous person who beleives everyone should think my way? That's why we have brain and free will, those that wish to use it to follow the WTS its fine by me. They're doing me no harm, and I won't do them any harm back.
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NAME`JEHOVAH' FIRST USED BY CATHOLIC!
by badboy ini believe i read somewhere that jehovah was first used by the catholic!
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R6Laser
I believe I read somewhere that Jehovah was first used by the Catholic!
So what? What's your point? What's the big deal? Or in your case how are you going to use this to talk bad about them?
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I'm so Naughty! I pretended to be a JW to get a sale.
by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit ini had customers yesterday, a couple, who said they had to get to a meeting by 7:30 last night.
(red flag!
) i asked what was the nature of this meeting, and they said it was like church, and i asked what religion, and they were hohos.
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R6Laser
Hey there's a carpet place near here owned by JW's. They give a standard 10% or 15% discount to brothers. I've often tossed up whether I should say I'm a JW to get the discount?
I am not DA'ed or DF'ed, just faded.
Would that be lying???
Pope
I own a computer business and give my friends and family a discount. If you say you are my friend to get the discount would you be lying?
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I'm so Naughty! I pretended to be a JW to get a sale.
by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit ini had customers yesterday, a couple, who said they had to get to a meeting by 7:30 last night.
(red flag!
) i asked what was the nature of this meeting, and they said it was like church, and i asked what religion, and they were hohos.
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R6Laser
Not surprising many of you defending the original poster on what he did. Its common on this forum for someone to come with a stupid idea or something that they did to bring other jw's down and that poster is praised for this like some type of hero. In this case the original poster straight out lied, he even titled his post with "I'm so Naughty..." And saying that the jw's lie too is no excuse, these people beleive they have the truth and in their own view are not lying. Same with all of you when you were in it, you all tought you had the truth. Thinking back did you think you were lying? Only after most of us opened our eyes did we notice things were not right. Its amazing all the bitterness that comes off this forum.
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I'm so Naughty! I pretended to be a JW to get a sale.
by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit ini had customers yesterday, a couple, who said they had to get to a meeting by 7:30 last night.
(red flag!
) i asked what was the nature of this meeting, and they said it was like church, and i asked what religion, and they were hohos.
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R6Laser
Agree with undercover and pcecilia also. But at least it goes with the stereotype of car salesmen being liers and not trustworthy. Its very rare for someone to go out and buy a car and enjoy the part where they actually have to deal with the salesman. It should not come as anything out of the ordinary that a car salesman lied to sell a car, that's what they usually do all the time anyways.