Posts by desertlily

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Are We Missing the Bigger Picture???

by drew sagan in

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we all pretty much have come to the same conclusion here that the watchtower is a corrupt system that controlls it's followers.

through websites, tv, and books many have put in alot of time exposing the teachings for what they really are.

but is there something going on in the organization right now that is even bigger than the false doctrines, something that shows they are in the planning stage of something that's even more corrupt than what is going on now?

desertlily

Good Day Everybody:

Just a thought to share, but if you substitute all the negatvies the WTS applies to Christendom today and focus the Scriptures on Jah's wayward people in need of cleansing by Jesus, it begins to make sense. imho

Matthew 15:3-9

3 In reply he said to them: “Why is it YOU also overstep the commandment of God because of YOUR tradition? 4 For example, God said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘Let him that reviles father or mother end up in death.’ 5 But YOU say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother: “Whatever I have by which you might get benefit from me is a gift dedicated to God,” 6 he must not honor his father at all.’ And so YOU have made the word of God invalid because of YOUR tradition. 7 Y OU hypocrites, Isaiah aptly prophesied about YOU , when he said, 8 ‘This people honors me with their lips, yet their heart is far removed from me. 9 It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines.’”

Much Christian Love and Light to All

sis

The Watchtower: A Needed Change in Leadership

http://www.e-watchman.com/commentaries/watchtower-change-in-leadership.html

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Is there a certain TYPE of person who leaves the org?

by M.J. in

just wondering.

do ex-jws generally fit a certain profile?

is it only a matter of time for some types of people to find their way out?.

desertlily

Good Day M.J. and All:

Just a thought, but truthseekers sighing and groaning over the detestable things being done in "spiritual paradise", and who desire to worship Jah and Jesus in spirit and truth, will get thrown out or led out of the synagogues, eventually, and those left:

2 Timothy 4:3-5

3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. 5 You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry.

Much Christian Love and Light to All

sis

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Why are EX-JW's and JW's in doubt(faders) so ''afraid" of the elders?

by booker-t in

i have been out for years now but i still tremble alittle when i run into an elder at the store or run into an elder on the street and my post question certainly applies to me as well but why do i still have fear of jw's elders?

i have been da'd for so many years but that fear still comes up.

and reading alot of the post here i still see ex-jw's and jw's faders living a pretended jw life or pretending to be happy when they are miserable in the wt.

desertlily

Good Afternoon Everybody:

Just a thought to share along with a link that may answer some questions as to why these things are happening to Jah and Jesus' precious sheep at the hands of wolves in elders clothing.

Matthew 10:26-28 (The Message)

26-27 "Don't be intimidated. Eventually everything is going to be out in the open, and everyone will know how things really are. So don't hesitate to go public now. 28 "Don't be bluffed into silence by the threats of bullies. There's nothing they can do to your soul, your core being. Save your fear for God, who holds your entire life—body and soul—in his hands.

http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/index.php

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Panic attacks and Jehovahs Witness!

by Gill in

how many of you had panic attacks when you were a jw and when leaving?

i know of many jw women and a few men who suffered badly with panic attacks.

since recently having another spate of panic attacks i suddenly realised that i had been having them all my life.

desertlily

FYI Brothers and Sisters:

Jeremiah 6:13-15

13 “For from the least one of them even to the greatest one of them, every one is making for himself unjust gain; and from the prophet even to the priest, each one is acting falsely. 14 And they try to heal the breakdown of my people lightly, saying, ‘There is peace! There is peace!’ when there is no peace. 15 Did they feel shame because it was something detestable that they had done? For one thing, they positively do not feel any shame; for another thing, they have not come to know even how to feel humiliated. Therefore they will fall among those who are falling; in the time that I must hold an accounting with them they will stumble,” Jehovah has said.

Jeremiah 8:10,11

8 “‘How can YOU men say: “We are wise, and the law of Jehovah is with us”? Surely, now, the false stylus of the secretaries has worked in sheer falsehood. 9 The wise ones have become ashamed. They have become terrified and will be caught. Look! They have rejected the very word of Jehovah, and what wisdom do they have? 10 Therefore I shall give their wives to other men, their fields to those taking possession; for, from the least one even to the greatest one, each one is making unjust gain; from the prophet even to the priest, each one is acting falsely. 11 And they try to heal the breakdown of the daughter of my people lightly, saying: “There is peace! There is peace!” when there is no peace.

http://www.e-watchman.com/mailbag/2003/june-1-2003.html

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We met with J.R. Brown and Spivey- My impression

by ronin1 in

my husband and i have been the recipients of elder shepherding calls.

they are bs.

some elders came into our home one night requesting a meeting with us because they wanted to ask us questions about one of my brothers, who was an elder, but got deleted because he stood up for what was right and denounced the wrong things the elders were doing.

desertlily

Good Morning Everybody:

Just a reminder that we're not alone in this war, so hang in there by leaning heavily on Jah, Jesus and the Holy Spirit and pray incessantly!

Much Christian Love to All to Endure

sis

1 Peter 5:8-11

8 Keep YOUR senses, be watchful. Y OUR adversary, the Devil, walks about like a roaring lion, seeking to devour [someone]. 9 But take YOUR stand against him, solid in the faith, knowing that the same things in the way of sufferings are being accomplished in the entire association of YOUR brothers in the world. 10 But, after YOU have suffered a little while, the God of all undeserved kindness, who called YOU to his everlasting glory in union with Christ, will himself finish YOUR training, he will make YOU firm, he will make YOU strong. 11 To him be the might forever. Amen.

http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/index.php

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Should I admit to JWs that I am disfellowshipped?

by jwfacts in

i know about 2000 jws in sydney, and have 50 that are tax clients, so barely a week goes by without bumping into someone i know.

it seems that few of them realise that i am disfellowshipped because they talk freely to me.

last week i accidently sat next to an elder on the train and we engaged in small talk for over 30 minutes.. should i admit to these people that i am not a jw?.

desertlily

Good Day brother Paul and Wife:

Just a thought, but let your light shine and make them wonder why you're so happy with your new found freedom to worship Jah and Jesus in spirit and truth!

1 Peter 3:13-17

13 Indeed, who is the man that will harm YOU if YOU become zealous for what is good? 14 But even if YOU should suffer for the sake of righteousness, YOU are happy. However, the object of their fear do not YOU fear, neither become agitated. 15 But sanctify the Christ as Lord in YOUR hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone that demands of YOU a reason for the hope in YOU , but doing so together with a mild temper and deep respect. 16 Hold a good conscience, so that in the particular in which YOU are spoken against they may get ashamed who are speaking slightingly of YOUR good conduct in connection with Christ. 17 For it is better to suffer because YOU are doing good, if the will of God wishes it, than because YOU are doing evil.

Much Christian Love to All to Endure these "Refining Tests"

sis

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UPDATE! 'Local Needs' Part on Apostates!

by drew sagan in

jw
friends

i'm not kidding.

it has been less than two weeks since i discussed with an elder some of the problems i had about the wts.

one discussion.

desertlily

Good Morning Everybody:

Just a thought to share, but once your eyes are opened to the truth about the truth, the Scriptures regarding the indentity of "unbelievers" takes on a whole new meaning to those related to us in the faith!

2 Corinthians 4:3-6

3 If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, 4 among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through. 5 For we are preaching, not ourselves, but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as YOUR slaves for Jesus’ sake. 6 For God is he who said: “Let the light shine out of darkness,” and he has shone on our hearts to illuminate [them] with the glorious knowledge of God by the face of Christ.

Much Christian Love and Light to All

sis

http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/index.php

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GREAT news from Ian -- this one needs its own thread!

by Alleymom in

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friends

dear all,

thank you so much for the continued vigils.

and thank you, marjorie, for the continuing reminders!

desertlily

Good Afternoon brother Ian:

Praise JAH and JESUS everybody and I truly believe cyber prayers are answered from all over our cyber world and that it doesn't hurt to ask for extra doses of the Holy Spirit to hasten "healing", whether spiritually, physically or mentally! The "bestest" part is that it's FREE for the asking, 24/7!!

Much Christian Love and Prayers to You and All and Continued Good Health!

sis

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One person got baptized at Circuit Ass. today (powerhouse circuit)

by thecarpenter in

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friends

just got a call from a friend who told me only one person got baptized today in a ciruit assembly in nyc.

this is in a powerhouse circuit that had tremendous growth 10~20 years ago but is now seeing a steady decline to the point that congregations are starting to merge because so many are leaving.

what could be the cause of this decline?

desertlily

Good Day Everybody:

Just another thought, but most JW's will believe this to be a "sign" that the worldwide preaching work is coming to completion, with Jehovah's blessing, in spite of the fact that several billion fellow human beings have yet to be reached with their 1914 flawed "version" of the "good news". Matthew 24:14

Much Christian Love to All Truthseekers

sis Lee

http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/index.php

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One person got baptized at Circuit Ass. today (powerhouse circuit)

by thecarpenter in

jw
friends

just got a call from a friend who told me only one person got baptized today in a ciruit assembly in nyc.

this is in a powerhouse circuit that had tremendous growth 10~20 years ago but is now seeing a steady decline to the point that congregations are starting to merge because so many are leaving.

what could be the cause of this decline?

desertlily

Good Day Everybody:

Just a few Scriptures to share, and let the reader use discernment regarding ALL "religions", as opposed to worshiping Jah and Jesus in spirit and in truth. John 4:24

Revelation 18:1-8

1 After these things I saw another angel descending from heaven, with great authority; and the earth was lighted up from his glory. 2 And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a lurking place of every unclean exhalation and a lurking place of every unclean and hated bird! 3 For because of the wine of the anger of her fornication all the nations have fallen [victim], and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the traveling merchants of the earth became rich due to the power of her shameless luxury.” 4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 6 Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her. 7 To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps saying, ‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.’ 8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong.

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